Pairs Hilton.

[ZeroX]

Is pretty hot. Am I right?

[BigAznDaddy]

Is pretty hot. Am I right?

she is also fucking the dumbest piece of shit alive. but you are right shes fuckable  and so is miss south Carolina

[trust]

yes.

I also think the media makes her out to be less intelligent than she really is. After all, she was educated at some of the top schools in the country.

[Sidoh]

yes.

I also think the media makes her out to be less intelligent than she really is. After all, she was educated at some of the top schools in the country.

So did George Bush (and yes, I'm saying he isn't intelligent).  Attending a good school doesn't say much about intelligence, especially when the person in question comes from an extremely wealthy family.

[iago]

yes.

I also think the media makes her out to be less intelligent than she really is. After all, she was educated at some of the top schools in the country.

So did George Bush (and yes, I'm saying he isn't intelligent).  Attending a good school doesn't say much about intelligence, especially when the person in question comes from an extremely wealthy family.

Yeah, I completely agree. Getting educated at the best schools doesn't mean you're smart, it means you're rich. There's no way I could have afforded to go to a prestigious school (my family isn't poor, but we're by no means rich), but I went to the local university, got what I consider to be a good education, and here I am.

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't as dumb as she seems. But I don't think it's totally the media that portrays her like that, I think she does it to herself. I guess you could say that it's her schtick.

[Chavo]

Getting educated at the best schools doesn't mean you're smart, it means you're rich.

That might be true for the undergraduate program at any college, but I don't know anyone in a masters program that doesn't deserve to be there.  The cost difference is virtually non existent.  If you can get in, you can get a GTA position that covers your tuition and pays you more than enough to cover the rest of your expenses.

Disclaimer: All of my friends in grad school are Engineers, Mathematicians, or Med students   All of them went to 'less prestigious' schools for their undergraduate degree.  Some had scholarships, some did not.  There is a lot to be said for being a Big Fish in a Little Pond in my opinion.

[trust]

Yeah, I completely agree. Getting educated at the best schools doesn't mean you're smart, it means you're rich. There's no way I could have afforded to go to a prestigious school (my family isn't poor, but we're by no means rich), but I went to the local university, got what I consider to be a good education, and here I am.

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't as dumb as she seems. But I don't think it's totally the media that portrays her like that, I think she does it to herself. I guess you could say that it's her schtick.

I completely disagree with you and Sidoh (moreso Sidoh since he mentioned George Bush.) Anyway regardless of the amount of money she has, that doesn't mean she didn't actually attend or do her schoolwork. It doesn't matter if you're paying, you're not exempted from the work.

[Sidoh]

I completely disagree with you and Sidoh (moreso Sidoh since he mentioned George Bush.) Anyway regardless of the amount of money she has, that doesn't mean she didn't actually attend or do her schoolwork. It doesn't matter if you're paying, you're not exempted from the work.

Hahaha, you amuse me, Trust.

You've failed to understand my point.  Attending a prestigious university does not necessarily mean the person attending it is intelligent.  It is therefore a logical fallacy to assume anything about anyone's intelligence based purely on which university they attended.  Academic achievement (like George Bush's C average) says much more about intelligence, but we haven't been discussing that.

I'm not sure what you're getting at, but I'm pretty sure what you've just presented is a strawman argument.

[CrAz3D]

yes.

I also think the media makes her out to be less intelligent than she really is. After all, she was educated at some of the top schools in the country.

So did George Bush (and yes, I'm saying he isn't intelligent).  Attending a good school doesn't say much about intelligence, especially when the person in question comes from an extremely wealthy family.

I'm glad we didn't elect John Kerry then

[trust]

I completely disagree with you and Sidoh (moreso Sidoh since he mentioned George Bush.) Anyway regardless of the amount of money she has, that doesn't mean she didn't actually attend or do her schoolwork. It doesn't matter if you're paying, you're not exempted from the work.

Hahaha, you amuse me, Trust.

You've failed to understand my point.  Attending a prestigious university does not necessarily mean the person attending it is intelligent.  It is therefore a logical fallacy to assume anything about anyone's intelligence based purely on which university they attended.  Academic achievement (like George Bush's C average) says much more about intelligence, but we haven't been discussing that.

I'm not sure what you're getting at, but I'm pretty sure what you've just presented is a strawman argument.

I'd rather have a C average from Yale and Harvard than an A average from, say, Norfolk State University.

The point I'm getting at is pretty obvious, while attending prestigious prepatory schools Paris Hilton had to have absorbed some of the knowledge because even if she paid, say, 20x the amount of tuition just to go there (she didn't, but still) she still would have had to attend classes and, by the very nature of classes, learn something.

[iago]

I'd rather have a C average from Yale and Harvard than an A average from, say, Norfolk State University.

If I was in charge of hiring, I probably wouldn't consider the person with a low GPA no matter where he went, and vice versa. Of course, a good B is probably better than an A for reasons I've stated here before that people don't agree with, but that's a whole different situation. 

The point I'm getting at is pretty obvious, while attending prestigious prepatory schools Paris Hilton had to have absorbed some of the knowledge because even if she paid, say, 20x the amount of tuition just to go there (she didn't, but still) she still would have had to attend classes and, by the very nature of classes, learn something.

The same would go no matter which school she went to, by the very nature of classes. Why's it matter that she went to expensive ones?

[trust]

When you're going to a highschool that is more expensive than most colleges you expect to receive a top notch education. If the students don't receive said education then nobody would send their children there and then the school would close and wouldn't make any money.

For example: I go to the most expensive college in Virginia, and when parents pay such a large sum of money to send their kid to be educated they expect them to receive the best education money can buy. Why else would someone pay $37,000/year if they could receive equal education and opportunities for $3,000? In addition to top notch professors, I also have at my disposal many other benefits that students at other schools don't have which make it worth the money. (While this may be the most expensive college in VA, it's also rated as one of the top value colleges in the nation due to what they offer)

It's a sad unfairness, but you're paying for both prestige and education - both of which are valuable assets in life.


Note: This isn't to say that what I'm writing is the gospel or anything, as large inexpensive state schools constantly output very brilliant individuals who go on to do great things and make tons of bank - but what I said is the theory behind pricier education.

We actually have a seminar coming up on campus soon about whether or not public education should be abolished. I don't think it should be, but I think I might go check it out to see the arguments.

[iago]

I guess it comes down to who cares about prestige. I always envision the bigger schools as a bunch of rich people who think they're better than everybody else, so if I see that somebody graduated from one it isn't going to count in their favour. And I think a lot of people feel the same way. I even get looked down at sometimes for going to university at all from people who didn't go to a post-secondary school and who do the same job. They think that I'm going to act arrogantly because I have more education (and a lot of people with more education would); however, I'm the first person to admit that an extremely small amount of my education actually applies.

[trust]

I guess it comes down to who cares about prestige. I always envision the bigger schools as a bunch of rich people who think they're better than everybody else, so if I see that somebody graduated from one it isn't going to count in their favour. And I think a lot of people feel the same way. I even get looked down at sometimes for going to university at all from people who didn't go to a post-secondary school and who do the same job. They think that I'm going to act arrogantly because I have more education (and a lot of people with more education would); however, I'm the first person to admit that an extremely small amount of my education actually applies.

When you go to an Ivy League school the amount of prestige associated with the school is inescapable. Mention you graduated from Harvard and the amount of respect you get automatically increases, and I've seen this happen.

[iago]

When you go to an Ivy League school the amount of prestige associated with the school is inescapable. Mention you graduated from Harvard and the amount of respect you get automatically increases, and I've seen this happen.

Obviously it does in certain circles, but other people think you're just a "hoity toity Harvard kid who thinks he's better than me just cuz he has more edumacation!"

Ok, maybe it's not that bad, but I'm quite sure that they get resentment from a lot of people.