Author Topic: Sheriff goes on a shooting rampage (Read 6683 times)

Falcon · « **on:** October 08, 2007, 11:58:05 am »

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-10-08-wisconsin_N.htm
Are you even allowed to defend yourself in this case? I mean if you shoot a sheriff you're in deep shit, but if you just stand there he will shoot you.

Blaze · « **Reply #1 on:** October 08, 2007, 12:03:16 pm »

Well, someone shot him and I don't believe they will be in much trouble.

Sidoh · « **Reply #2 on:** October 08, 2007, 12:04:17 pm »

Are you sure you read the story correctly? From what I gathered, he started shooting at the teenagers out of rage or something.

iago · « **Reply #3 on:** October 08, 2007, 12:10:37 pm »

The teenagers may have been zombies.

More later.

Falcon · « **Reply #4 on:** October 08, 2007, 02:03:05 pm »

Quote from: Blaze on October 08, 2007, 12:03:16 pm

Well, someone shot him and I don't believe they will be in much trouble.

Yea in this case a police officer shot him. I was talking about the victims.

Quote from: Sidoh on October 08, 2007, 12:04:17 pm

Are you sure you read the story correctly? From what I gathered, he started shooting at the teenagers out of rage or something.

I think the article mentions that he was targeting his ex-girlfriend out of jealousy or something, I thought police had to take some kind of test to make sure they are mentally stable before they take on the job?

zorm · « **Reply #5 on:** October 08, 2007, 02:05:48 pm »

Shit happens, he was off duty.

Should really be "man goes on shooting rampage."

The fact that he was part of a peace force has little to do with the matter. I also agree with iago, it was zombies.

Sidoh · « **Reply #6 on:** October 08, 2007, 02:07:47 pm »

Quote from: Falcon on October 08, 2007, 02:03:05 pm

I think the article mentions that he was targeting his ex-girlfriend out of jealousy or something, I thought police had to take some kind of test to make sure they are mentally stable before they take on the job?

You sounded like you thought the teenagers started it in your first post.

I'm sure there's some sort of test or something, but nothing is definitive. Someone can appear completely stable but have the intentions of a madman. You can screen people as much as you want, but that doesn't mean that you're going to prevent everything bad from happening. Unpredictable circumstances lead to unpredictable consequences.

In addition, I also agree with iago. They were definitely zombies. I'm not sure why, but if iago suspects it, then it must be true.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #7 on:** October 08, 2007, 02:09:32 pm »

Of course shoot back if some nut is trying to shoot you.

Sidoh · « **Reply #8 on:** October 08, 2007, 02:12:56 pm »

Quote from: CrAz3D on October 08, 2007, 02:09:32 pm

Of course shoot back if some nut is trying to shoot you.

I would only do that if it was the absolute last thing I could do to save my life. I think we've been through this before, but I'd rather not take that sort of thing into my own hands if I can avoid it.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #9 on:** October 08, 2007, 02:23:35 pm »

Quote from: Sidoh on October 08, 2007, 02:12:56 pm

Quote from: CrAz3D on October 08, 2007, 02:09:32 pm
Of course shoot back if some nut is trying to shoot you.
I would only do that if it was the absolute last thing I could do to save my life. I think we've been through this before, but I'd rather not take that sort of thing into my own hands if I can avoid it.

We probably have been through this before

.

But yeah, I'm more of a "shoot first ask questions later" person in a case where someone is shooting at me.

Warrior · « **Reply #10 on:** October 08, 2007, 02:56:45 pm »

Blow that motherfuckers head off

CrAz3D · « **Reply #11 on:** October 08, 2007, 02:59:36 pm »

Ya know, I wonder about shooting people, sometimes.

Last night @ 230 am neighbor's car started honking & all. Got me to thinkin' "What if I heard my horn going off, went outside and saw someone taking my stuff. If I shot the guy, what would I do afterwards? Would I call the cops or just bury him in the backyard?"

Warrior · « **Reply #12 on:** October 08, 2007, 03:05:04 pm »

CrAz3D · « **Reply #13 on:** October 08, 2007, 03:10:14 pm »

Quote from: Warrior[x86] on October 08, 2007, 03:05:04 pm

WTF?

Exactly. Why bother going through the hassle of the cops maybe arresting me when I could just do it all myself

! ha

iago · « **Reply #14 on:** October 08, 2007, 03:36:49 pm »

If somebody was shooting at me, the last thing I'd do is give away my position by shooting back. Rather, I would take cover and hide somewhere. Especially if it was random, since they wouldn't come looking for you. If you tried shooting back, especially if he's trained, you'd probably end up being the one who's shot.

In terms of burying him, if you got caught covering up a crime like that, you'd serve a lot of time no matter if it was your fault or not.

<edit> Incidentally, that's the wrong reason for not doing it. The better reason is that it's not the right thing to do. They almost certain have family or friends that would be wondering what happened to them, without ever getting any kind of closure. Whether or not the person is a crimina, besides being wrong to outright kill him, it's also wrong to deny everybody else the knowledge of what happened.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #15 on:** October 08, 2007, 04:52:09 pm »

If everyone is trained and armed then it'd work fine to shoot back

And yeah, I know it's wrong morally, of course. But is it worth the hassle of maybe dealing with "the law"? hah

iago · « **Reply #16 on:** October 08, 2007, 05:07:00 pm »

Quote from: CrAz3D on October 08, 2007, 04:52:09 pm

If everyone is trained and armed then it'd work fine to shoot back

Not likely. There's still a good chance of getting yourself shot if you do that, better than if you hide.

Quote from: CrAz3D on October 08, 2007, 04:52:09 pm

And yeah, I know it's wrong morally, of course. But is it worth the hassle of maybe dealing with "the law"? hah

No, but that doesn't matter because you shouldn't have murdered somebody in the first place.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #17 on:** October 08, 2007, 05:09:19 pm »

I can see taking cover and then firing...but hiding doesnt work so well if they sneak up on you.

I didn't murder someone, the scenario is me killing someone who is threatening me/my property (legal)

iago · « **Reply #18 on:** October 08, 2007, 05:17:05 pm »

If they sneak up on you, then you're probably dead anyways. Taking cover and firing, like I said, gives away your position. You're better off taking cover and waiting for him to leave.

And as far as I'm concerned, killing = murder. If it makes you feel better that it's legal to take a human's life away from them, that's fine. But it makes no difference to me, if you intentionally kill somebody, you've murdered them.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #19 on:** October 08, 2007, 05:21:14 pm »

But if you take cover then you're hidden til you have a good shot...then you shoot til you're out of ammo.

killing = murder. Murder is a legal concept and a crime. Sometime killing is necessary.

Sidoh · « **Reply #20 on:** October 08, 2007, 05:23:03 pm »

Quote from: CrAz3D on October 08, 2007, 05:21:14 pm

But if you take cover then you're hidden til you have a good shot...then you shoot til you're out of ammo.

killing = murder. Murder is a legal concept and a crime. Sometime killing is necessary.

I think "necessary" in this context is pretty opinionated...

CrAz3D · « **Reply #21 on:** October 08, 2007, 05:34:35 pm »

I suppose that isn't correct.

Allow me to rephrase. Sometimes it is necessary to kill to protect your life or that of others.

GameSnake · « **Reply #22 on:** October 08, 2007, 06:56:14 pm »

According to this link the shooter was killed by a police sniper (it doesn't tell you that in the first post's link).

BigAznDaddy · « **Reply #23 on:** October 08, 2007, 07:09:15 pm »

How does a 20 year old become a cop? In San Diego you have to be at least 21 to start the training to become an officer ( I researched this cause i want to become a cop

) and why would a 14 year old be at a "Party"? things never make sense...

CrAz3D · « **Reply #24 on:** October 08, 2007, 07:11:48 pm »

Wisconsin is a horrible state, that's why. ha

Joe · « **Reply #25 on:** October 08, 2007, 08:01:20 pm »

Quote from: CrAz3D on October 08, 2007, 07:11:48 pm

Wisconsin is a horrible state, that's why. ha

Fuck off. <3

And yes, I know 14 year old potheads.

Warrior · « **Reply #26 on:** October 08, 2007, 08:16:48 pm »

Quote from: Joe[x86] on October 08, 2007, 08:01:20 pm

Quote from: CrAz3D on October 08, 2007, 07:11:48 pm
Wisconsin is a horrible state, that's why. ha

Fuck off. <3

And yes, I know 14 year old potheads.

Is that all? Doesn't hold a candle to the 11 year old chain smokers and marijuana experimenters here.
Hell, I smoked pot when I was 14.

while1 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 08, 2007, 08:45:20 pm »

I thought he was a Deputy... not a Sheriff. >_>;

Damn you, now I have the song I shot the sheriff stuck in my head.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #28 on:** October 08, 2007, 08:52:24 pm »

Quote from: Michael on October 08, 2007, 08:45:20 pm

I thought he was a Deputy... not a Sheriff. >_>;

Damn you, now I have the song I shot the sheriff stuck in my head.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

"I shot the sheriff but did not shoot the deputy" becomes "I ran from the deputy but I did not run fast enough"

GameSnake · « **Reply #29 on:** October 08, 2007, 11:56:31 pm »

Quote from: Michael on October 08, 2007, 08:45:20 pm

I thought he was a Deputy... not a Sheriff. >_>;

Damn you, now I have the song I shot the sheriff stuck in my head.

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Author Topic: Sheriff goes on a shooting rampage (Read 6683 times)