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Re: Concealed weapons: good/bad?
« Reply #120 on: February 25, 2008, 09:20:24 am »
That's not gun crimes, that's violence that they mentioned in the video.  Being that there are naturally going to be fewer guns available it seems interesting that violence would spike like that.

It isn't gun crimes (like possession), they mentioned violence.
I would expect them to follow the same thread, based on my logic.

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Re: Concealed weapons: good/bad?
« Reply #121 on: February 26, 2008, 08:27:35 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_QjEL0uUgo

*tear*, it's beautifully true

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Re: Concealed weapons: good/bad?
« Reply #122 on: February 26, 2008, 08:44:31 pm »
Except...in all of those cases concealed carry or open carry wouldn't have mattered.  In fact, open carry would probably have prevented it in the first place.

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Re: Concealed weapons: good/bad?
« Reply #123 on: February 26, 2008, 08:52:57 pm »
I like open carry more, too.



Being that he didn't really talk about the exact specifics of each case it's amusing that you can jump to a conclusion without knowing the facts.

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Re: Concealed weapons: good/bad?
« Reply #124 on: February 26, 2008, 10:25:40 pm »
All his arguments seem to be about why the prison system sucks, coupled with him clearly being a violent person.

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Re: Concealed weapons: good/bad?
« Reply #125 on: February 26, 2008, 10:59:27 pm »
And how we have the right to protect ourselves.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvV3gr_vinE

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Re: Concealed weapons: good/bad?
« Reply #126 on: February 27, 2008, 08:02:11 am »
Well, it doesn't matter, because by the sound of it, in each case, they never got wrist control, which is step 1 in self defense

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Re: Concealed weapons: good/bad?
« Reply #127 on: February 27, 2008, 08:44:30 am »
And how we have the right to protect ourselves.
He SAID that, but none of his arguments led to that. They all said, "the prison system doesn't works, so we should kill criminals ourselves". That's it.

There's a difference between saying something and proving/defending something. One is rhetoric, and the other is argument.

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Re: Concealed weapons: good/bad?
« Reply #128 on: March 01, 2008, 06:31:07 pm »
http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/61167.html
Bill Richardson voted against the original assault weapon ban ;)!

At that time he was the Rep. of the the most liberal House district in our state.  Really, Richardson is one Democrat I would DEFINITELY vote for over McCain ... too bad he didn't keep going :(.

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« Reply #129 on: March 02, 2008, 03:33:06 pm »

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Re: Concealed weapons: good/bad?
« Reply #130 on: March 04, 2008, 08:01:08 pm »
Well the right to bear arms doesn't mean criminals should shoot people, guns don't kill people, people kill people. Nobody should need to carry anything more than a stun gun for protection, and a rifle to hunt.

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Re: Concealed weapons: good/bad?
« Reply #131 on: March 04, 2008, 10:38:22 pm »
Ideally you don't need anything for protection ... but if I ever need something for protection I definitely want something more than a stun gun