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Offline CrAz3D

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Screwy justice system
« on: February 21, 2008, 05:14:02 pm »
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/21/wife.dismembered.ap/index.html

That dude got 50 years.

While I was taking care of my "racing on the highways" ticket I saw a kid get 4 days and nearly $500 in fines for smoking pot (we're not talking dealing or possession of an obscene amount, we're talking about a college kid smoking pot).


Things are so screwed up.

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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2008, 05:15:09 pm »
So a man was sentenced for basically his whole life killing his wife.

Another man was given a fairly small sentence for breaking another crime.

I fail to see the problem?

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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2008, 05:31:35 pm »
He sure wouldn't get 50 years in Canada, and probably with a new Judge/Jury he'd get much less in the States too.

So, if you plan to murder your wife, make sure you're Canadian (and in Canada)!  Wait..
And like a fool I believed myself, and thought I was somebody else...

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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2008, 05:48:45 pm »
So a man was sentenced for basically his whole life killing his wife.

Another man was given a fairly small sentence for breaking another crime.

I fail to see the problem?

he should get the guillotine, or the kid should get nothing (I have issues with victimless crimes)

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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2008, 06:02:43 pm »
he should get the guillotine, or the kid should get nothing (I have issues with victimless crimes)
So you're suggesting punishing a person who broke the law illegally, and not punishing another?

Something is definitely screwy..

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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2008, 06:07:35 pm »
he should get the guillotine, or the kid should get nothing (I have issues with victimless crimes)
So you're suggesting punishing a person who broke the law illegally, and not punishing another?

Something is definitely screwy..


I'm suggesting the law the kid was charged under is unjust and unconstitutional.  Look at Roe v. Wade, it took a crime and made it ok under the guise of "privacy" ... I say do the same for (some) drug crimes

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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2008, 06:09:40 pm »
I'm suggesting the law the kid was charged under is unjust and unconstitutional.  Look at Roe v. Wade, it took a crime and made it ok under the guise of "privacy" ... I say do the same for (some) drug crimes
So you disagree with a law. Bring it up somewhere that matters. Until then, expect people to get punished the way they're supposed to get punished.

4 days for a drug user vs. 50 years for a murderer.. that's about 4600x as harsh of a sentence.

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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2008, 06:11:37 pm »
...for a crime that is infinitely more heinous



This is a place for discussion, and since I created the discussion about this topic, this is a fine place for it.

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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2008, 06:13:20 pm »
It's hard to argue points on this as you can tell by the marijuana discussion on the vL thread.

I personally think that for a kid smoking marijuana ... the punishment shouldn't be too big, as of a murder that's a whole new story.

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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2008, 06:13:59 pm »
infinitely more heinous? So are all punishments measured by the heinousness of a crime? Because last time I checked, drinking and driving is a pretty severe crime, and it's not the least bit "shockingly brutal or cruel".


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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2008, 06:14:12 pm »
I personally think that for a kid smoking marijuana ... the punishment shouldn't be too big, as of a murder that's a whole new story.
And that's exactly what happened.

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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2008, 06:15:14 pm »
So you're suggesting punishing a person who broke the law illegally, and not punishing another?

Are you trying to suggest that there are legal ways to break the law?
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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2008, 06:19:42 pm »
So you're suggesting punishing a person who broke the law illegally, and not punishing another?

Are you trying to suggest that there are legal ways to break the law?

I don't know if he is suggesting that, but their are definitely "legal" ways to do "crimes".

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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2008, 06:25:58 pm »
So you're suggesting punishing a person who broke the law illegally, and not punishing another?

Are you trying to suggest that there are legal ways to break the law?

I don't know if he is suggesting that, but their are definitely "legal" ways to do "crimes".

No there aren't, that's why they're crimes.


infinitely more heinous? So are all punishments measured by the heinousness of a crime? Because last time I checked, drinking and driving is a pretty severe crime, and it's not the least bit "shockingly brutal or cruel".

Punishments should be relative to the crime, otherwise it is unjust.

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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2008, 06:31:04 pm »
So you're suggesting punishing a person who broke the law illegally, and not punishing another?

Are you trying to suggest that there are legal ways to break the law?

I don't know if he is suggesting that, but their are definitely "legal" ways to do "crimes".

No there aren't, that's why they're crimes.


infinitely more heinous? So are all punishments measured by the heinousness of a crime? Because last time I checked, drinking and driving is a pretty severe crime, and it's not the least bit "shockingly brutal or cruel".

Punishments should be relative to the crime, otherwise it is unjust.

Murder is a crime, you'd agree?