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Offline BigAznDaddy

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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2008, 06:34:19 pm »
Both criminals got what they deserved. whats the so whats the problem?
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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2008, 06:35:23 pm »
Dale, yes, murder is a crime...I know where you're going, though.  Homicide ISN'T always a crime.
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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2008, 06:37:59 pm »
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 21, 2008, 06:35:23 pm
Dale, yes, murder is a crime...I know where you're going, though.  Homicide ISN'T always a crime.

No, that wasn't where I was going, but wouldn't you call killing in a war, murder? I mean it's killing, but it's legal.

Also,

On a side note, if you don't believe that our country has hit men, then you should open your eyes, also, what about self defense?
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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2008, 06:46:44 pm »
During war, it's still homicide.  Murder is a crime, always.

Self defense isn't murder, it's homicide.

Hit men/CIA ops/whatever are government agents acting under the confines of the law that justify their homicides.  Therefore, no murder.




Homicide is only murder if it is an unlawful killing.  Self defense, war, and assassinations are lawful (assassinations you might be able to take issues with, but that's a hugely complex things of international law and treaty)
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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2008, 06:53:00 pm »
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=murder
1.   Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law.

I'm sorry but this definition matches murder as killing another human being which is exactly what war, and assassinations are.

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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2008, 07:14:37 pm »
Quote from: Dale on February 21, 2008, 06:53:00 pm
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=murder
1.   Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law.

I'm sorry but this definition matches murder as killing another human being which is exactly what war, and assassinations are.



...huh?

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1.   Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law.
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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2008, 07:19:03 pm »
Quote from: Hitmen on February 21, 2008, 07:14:37 pm
Quote from: Dale on February 21, 2008, 06:53:00 pm
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=murder
1.   Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law.

I'm sorry but this definition matches murder as killing another human being which is exactly what war, and assassinations are.



...huh?

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1.   Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law.

Assassinations aren't covered by law, they're still illegal, it's just something we don't hear about...
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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2008, 07:57:10 pm »
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 21, 2008, 06:46:44 pm
Hit men/CIA ops/whatever are government agents acting under the confines of the law that justify their homicides.  Therefore, no murder.

Actually, they're not acting within the confinements of the law. That's why they're secretive about it. Murder is murder, regardless of the circumstances. Whether punishment is needed or not can be a circumstantial thing, but killing someone in self-defense, anger, passion, whatever, is killing someone.

How do homicide and murder differ, by the way? According to Wikipedia [link] it's Murder.
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Quote from: CrAz3D on June 30, 2008, 10:38:22 am
I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2008, 09:27:29 pm »
While all murder is homicide, not all homicide is murder
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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2008, 10:15:52 pm »
Who fucking cares? Jesus. I'm sorry but this is like the tenth stupid topic lately crazed.
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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2008, 10:37:35 pm »
And you having the flu is so much more entertaining  ::)
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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2008, 11:12:01 pm »
Actually, it is.
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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2008, 12:00:00 am »
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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2008, 12:25:58 am »
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 21, 2008, 09:27:29 pm
While all murder is homicide, not all homicide is murder

My link said homicide was murder. Explain it.
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Quote from: CrAz3D on June 30, 2008, 10:38:22 am
I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Screwy justice system
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2008, 12:29:11 am »
YOUR LINK says "criminal homicide" includes murder ... the same link says homicide isn't always illegal ::)
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