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Existentialism is less interesting than what I ate for dinner. Discuss.
leet_muffin:
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--- Quote from: Bender on February 29, 2008, 08:55:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: Deuce on February 29, 2008, 05:25:45 am ---While I'm not commenting directly about Friedrich Nietzsche, I would just like to take some time to say here that Existentialism sucks.
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What about it do you disagree with?
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I disagree with the presupposition that one can reject the validity of objective truth and simultaneously effect a meaningful self-purpose. I am also in disagreement with multiple conjectures that are further derived from this assumption.
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I see that that is a reasonable problem with it, but if other people choose to live their lives to a self-purpose you find to be not meaningful, how does this harm you? My self-purpose would probably seem unmeaningful to you, but that doesn't necessarily mean there's anything wrong with it.
iago:
--- Quote from: Deuce on March 01, 2008, 07:10:35 pm ---I disagree with the presupposition that one can reject the validity of objective truth and simultaneously effect a meaningful self-purpose. I am also in disagreement with multiple conjectures that are further derived from this assumption.
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Are you saying that you disagree with it because you don't like the consequences of agreeing? That's not really a valid argument. :P
d&q:
--- Quote from: leet_muffin on March 01, 2008, 10:05:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: Deuce on March 01, 2008, 07:10:35 pm ---
--- Quote from: Bender on February 29, 2008, 08:55:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: Deuce on February 29, 2008, 05:25:45 am ---While I'm not commenting directly about Friedrich Nietzsche, I would just like to take some time to say here that Existentialism sucks.
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What about it do you disagree with?
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I disagree with the presupposition that one can reject the validity of objective truth and simultaneously effect a meaningful self-purpose. I am also in disagreement with multiple conjectures that are further derived from this assumption.
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I see that that is a reasonable problem with it, but if other people choose to live their lives to a self-purpose you find to be not meaningful, how does this harm you? My self-purpose would probably seem unmeaningful to you, but that doesn't necessarily mean there's anything wrong with it.
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You're arguing something completely different. I'm not arguing the application of the philosophy--if you want to create something meaningless for yourself, so be it, I won't pity you. However, I object to the validity of the school of thought itself, which therefore leads me to harbor distaste towards it.
--- Quote from: iago on March 01, 2008, 11:15:06 pm ---
--- Quote from: Deuce on March 01, 2008, 07:10:35 pm ---I disagree with the presupposition that one can reject the validity of objective truth and simultaneously effect a meaningful self-purpose. I am also in disagreement with multiple conjectures that are further derived from this assumption.
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Are you saying that you disagree with it because you don't like the consequences of agreeing? That's not really a valid argument. :P
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Well first off, I really have not presented any arguments for my case. Also, if anything, its more of the opposite; The lack of legitimacy in the original will extend towards all of its derivatives.
Ender:
--- Quote from: Deuce on March 02, 2008, 12:19:43 am ---You're arguing something completely different. I'm not arguing the application of the philosophy--if you want to create something meaningless for yourself, so be it, I won't pity you. However, I object to the validity of the school of thought itself, which therefore leads me to harbor distaste towards it.
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Big words! Spoken like a true high school senior :P
My TA once told me a story about a professor she was TAing for. A student stayed after class to complain to the professor that Kant was wrong and that there was nothing of value in reading Kant. The professor replied: "But he's Kant, and you're a college freshman!"
d&q:
--- Quote from: Ender on March 02, 2008, 12:40:17 am ---
--- Quote from: Deuce on March 02, 2008, 12:19:43 am ---You're arguing something completely different. I'm not arguing the application of the philosophy--if you want to create something meaningless for yourself, so be it, I won't pity you. However, I object to the validity of the school of thought itself, which therefore leads me to harbor distaste towards it.
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Big words! Spoken like a true high school senior :P
My TA once told me a story about a professor she was TAing for. A student stayed after class to complain to the professor that Kant was wrong and that there was nothing of value in reading Kant. The professor replied: "But he's Kant, and you're a college freshman!"
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I don't use flowery/verbose words, I use words that express exactly what I am trying to convey. I don't know if you're trying to be condescending or not, but either way, your comment was not appreciated.
And by the way, I'm not a senior.
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