Author Topic: Firefox issues... (Read 5688 times)

Newby · « **on:** March 09, 2008, 10:29:05 pm »

Lately, Firefox thinks loading the page like this is cool (click for big):

Problem is, it's not a network issue - the same page loaded in Opera (click for big):

And rather than post an image with IE working, well, just take my word for it that IE7 loads them correctly as well.

I changed absolutely nothing settings-wise, and while I noticed some ICMP packets being dropped as of today (from my router to the internet, I was losing between 20-30% of my ICMP traffic, but this could just be regular since I never test it) TCP packets were absolutely fine.

Help!

EDIT to clarify: any page loads like that if there are multiple images, it would seem. Nothing shows up in my router logs.

iago · « **Reply #1 on:** March 09, 2008, 10:42:37 pm »

There's an option to disable the automatic download of images. Perhaps it got turned off by accident somehow? A gamma ray hit the bit or something?

Settings -> Content -> Load Images Automatically

Newby · « **Reply #2 on:** March 09, 2008, 10:44:34 pm »

That's still ticked on. On occasion, it'll load some images. But for the most part, it looks like that.

iago · « **Reply #3 on:** March 09, 2008, 11:40:02 pm »

I think you need to packetlog it to get more details.

Newby · « **Reply #4 on:** March 09, 2008, 11:55:51 pm »

Hmm. All of my checksums are apparently incorrect.

Observe just one:

Checksum: 0xaf39 [incorrect, should be 0x3885 (maybe caused by "TCP checksum offload"?)]

And in this window:

Might that have anything to do with it? I can save the packetlog if you'd like.

MyndFyre · « **Reply #5 on:** March 10, 2008, 04:02:41 am »

@iago: You can see the Google logo and some other images are still loaded, so you know that the other setting isn't the issue.

@Newby: that's really odd. Does anyone know whether Firefox implements its own TCP/IP stack?

Since the removal of SOCKET_RAW in XPSP2, I didn't think it would be possible to do so on Windows. But TCP should be auto-correcting for these things.

Microsoft is putting the smack down on Firefox?

iago · « **Reply #6 on:** March 10, 2008, 08:32:05 am »

Newby, it looks like you're having some serious network issues. I'd say you have a problem with a network cable or a network card or possibly your computer or router itself. And you can't rule out your ISP.

Quote from: MyndFyre on March 10, 2008, 04:02:41 am

@Newby: that's really odd. Does anyone know whether Firefox implements its own TCP/IP stack?

Yeah, no.

Sidoh · « **Reply #7 on:** March 10, 2008, 12:54:10 pm »

Do the pages work consistently in Opera? Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to packet log an Opera session. :\

Newby · « **Reply #8 on:** March 10, 2008, 01:01:27 pm »

Quote from: iago on March 10, 2008, 08:32:05 am

Newby, it looks like you're having some serious network issues. I'd say you have a problem with a network cable or a network card or possibly your computer or router itself. And you can't rule out your ISP.

That was packetlogged FROM my computer. So, I don't think it's my router. It definitely could be my network card, though, which is weird.

Quote from: Sidoh on March 10, 2008, 12:54:10 pm

Do the pages work consistently in Opera? Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to packet log an Opera session. :\

Yep. Let me do that.

Odd. Not only does my Opera session suffer from the same checksum error, but all of my packets seem to. Observe:

MyndFyre · « **Reply #9 on:** March 10, 2008, 05:32:08 pm »

Maybe it's a driver bug?

Newby · « **Reply #10 on:** March 10, 2008, 05:39:04 pm »

I don't think it's a driver issue -- M$ drivers are pretty solid. And it arose randomly yesterday.

I know I tinkered with some network setting with netsh a while back, but I don't think it had anything to do with checksumming.

warz · « **Reply #11 on:** March 10, 2008, 05:53:45 pm »

all ur imgz belong to me

Sidoh · « **Reply #12 on:** March 10, 2008, 05:55:57 pm »

Does this happen on other computers on your network? Try switching the port the cable coming from your computer plugs into. If it's still happening, maybe try plugging directly into the modem if possible. Try another computer on the same cable too.

Newby · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2008, 07:24:34 pm »

Well, I'm not sure if checksum offloading was the issue, but I fixed my checksum offloading issue (it apparently was offloading it to the hardware to calculate -- not anymore!) so we'll see if this clears it up.

As it turns out, a live packet log tells me that after it resolves the domain name, Firefox makes no attempts to connect to the server. At all. It just sits there, telling me it's loading. Opera, on the other hand, works fine. :|

Sidoh · « **Reply #14 on:** April 01, 2008, 12:19:05 am »

How strange. I've had problems with checksum offloading as well. When I used to play WoW, the game bugged out really frequently after a patch or any time there was a "rush" of information. Some posts on the support forums recommended disabling Checksum Offloading and it worked perfectly. Didn't have a single problem after that.

Newby · « **Reply #15 on:** April 01, 2008, 01:09:24 am »

It's disabled, but I am still having issues.

Sidoh · « **Reply #16 on:** April 01, 2008, 01:27:28 am »

Quote from: Newby on April 01, 2008, 01:09:24 am

It's disabled, but I am still having issues.

Heh, bummer. This issue is specific to your PC, right?

Newby · « **Reply #17 on:** April 01, 2008, 01:29:30 am »

Armin · « **Reply #18 on:** April 01, 2008, 01:31:07 am »

Try a different ethernet card if you haven't already just to narrow down the source of the problem.

Sidoh · « **Reply #19 on:** April 01, 2008, 01:31:22 am »

Quote from: Newby on April 01, 2008, 01:29:30 am

Yep!

That sucks. Can you boot into a Live CD or something and see if it works then? That'd pretty much narrow it down to your network card or some funky BIOS setting, I think?

Newby · « **Reply #20 on:** April 01, 2008, 01:59:50 am »

Quote from: Metal Militia on April 01, 2008, 01:31:07 am

Try a different ethernet card if you haven't already just to narrow down the source of the problem.

Why would the ethernet card be bunk if literally everything else works fine? I'll sit here, waiting for Firefox to load a page, and I'll browse to it with Opera and it'll load faster than Firefox can even think of doing.

Opera works fine to browse. I think. I do recall one time where I think it hung... but I don't use it long enough for it to do this.

Armin · « **Reply #21 on:** April 01, 2008, 02:07:18 am »

Quote from: Newby on April 01, 2008, 01:59:50 am

Quote from: Metal Militia on April 01, 2008, 01:31:07 am
Try a different ethernet card if you haven't already just to narrow down the source of the problem.

Why would the ethernet card be bunk if literally everything else works fine? I'll sit here, waiting for Firefox to load a page, and I'll browse to it with Opera and it'll load faster than Firefox can even think of doing.

If I'm stuck and can't find the solution to a problem, I check all my bases and be thorough.

Warrior · « **Reply #22 on:** April 01, 2008, 02:09:21 am »

I'm certain the Firefox technical support place can be of more help than we can.

Newby · « **Reply #23 on:** April 01, 2008, 02:12:05 am »

Quote from: Warrior on April 01, 2008, 02:09:21 am

I'm certain the Firefox technical support place can be of more help than we can.

That's true. Tomorrow, I shall go ask them!

Newby · « **Reply #24 on:** April 13, 2008, 12:55:17 pm »

So a fresh install of Vista seemed to solve my problem for a bit... and it started up again.

I think it might be the Add-On "DownThemAll" since that's what I most recently did that seemed to have caused it.

DeAtHZeRg · « **Reply #25 on:** April 13, 2008, 04:11:08 pm »

have you tried the latest beta of Firefox?

http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0b5&os=win&lang=en-US

Pick it up there if you haven't. I used to have issues with firefox randomly deleting my bookmarks. And since downloading the beta I have had no problems with it.

Give it a shot bud

Newby · « **Reply #26 on:** April 13, 2008, 11:35:25 pm »

Trying that now.

Nope.

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