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Re: "Black folk got a chip on their shoulder"
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2008, 03:25:53 pm »
"Knock that chip right off and be like boom-schackalacka"

I basically agree with his message, but it could have been shortened to "Shut the fuck up about slavery, and just go on living."
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Re: "Black folk got a chip on their shoulder"
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2008, 03:30:29 pm »
One of my favorite bumper stickers reads: Equality Rights does not mean SPECIAL RIGHTS!

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Re: "Black folk got a chip on their shoulder"
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2008, 03:55:18 pm »
"THIS HAS GOT TO STOP"

His blubbering needs to stop. I agree though.

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Re: "Black folk got a chip on their shoulder"
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2008, 07:15:45 pm »
I think both "sides" are equally at fault, the media tries way too hard to be politically correct.
You will never move past something if you keep bringing it up, and a lot of things said about Barack Obama for example are true.

Eg. He would not be in this situation if he were not black.
This is true and its not even a negative, he just was able to get blacks to support him overwhelmingly.

All this exit polling, racial profiling bullshit just needs to stop. People are people. White, red, yellow, black, orange, they are all people.
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Re: "Black folk got a chip on their shoulder"
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2008, 10:58:48 pm »
I agree with the general idea that a honest discussion about race is often hindered by having "a chip on the shoulder", but he's a bit extreme- making sound that the majority of the blame lies with blacks.  There's plenty of blame to go around, both whites and blacks.  I don't blame blacks for "having a chip on their shoulder", as I can't say I would not if I were in their shoes.  But I do agree that sometimes being quick to take the defensive or play the race card has not helped us progress as far as we could.  I also think that whites have also contributed to creating a culture where honesty about racism is unable to flourish.

It's ironic how you don't often see gray on the issue of race, viewpoints are usually black and white.  I think it's those in the gray usually are the ones who fear the labeling of being a racist the most.


EDIT:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G56W-7IXxzM&watch_response

Interesting... video...

EDIT2:  I disagree to an extent about not being able to move past things if you keep bringing it up.  You cannot do anything about something if you do not confront it.  But at the same time it risks making things worse.  Of course, give anything enough time... and it will be forgotten and "moved past", lost in time.

It takes every "side" of an issue to come to the table willing to compromise and change for the better.  This is why I don't believe Barack Obama can really deliver on the "change" he promises.
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Re: "Black folk got a chip on their shoulder"
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2008, 01:05:33 am »
Do you guys know if he thinks black people have a chip on their shoulder?

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Re: "Black folk got a chip on their shoulder"
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2008, 01:18:17 am »
It takes every "side" of an issue to come to the table willing to compromise and change for the better.  This is why I don't believe Barack Obama can really deliver on the "change" he promises.

Obama's State Senate Years Show Bipartisan Record

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“People on both sides of the aisle would find him to be someone who would reach across to find out why people think the way they do,” said William Mahar, a former Republican state senator. “He wouldn’t talk just to people who agreed with him.”

You mean like this?
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Re: "Black folk got a chip on their shoulder"
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2008, 01:54:39 am »
It takes every "side" of an issue to come to the table willing to compromise and change for the better.  This is why I don't believe Barack Obama can really deliver on the "change" he promises.

Obama's State Senate Years Show Bipartisan Record

A Bipartisan Record of Disagreeing With Both Parties.
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Re: "Black folk got a chip on their shoulder"
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2008, 02:20:03 am »
It takes every "side" of an issue to come to the table willing to compromise and change for the better.  This is why I don't believe Barack Obama can really deliver on the "change" he promises.

Obama's State Senate Years Show Bipartisan Record

A Bipartisan Record of Disagreeing With Both Parties.

"He was a key player in passing the first major ethics law Illinois had seen in years, limiting lobbyists’ gifts to officials. Along with one of the Senate’s most conservative members, he co-sponsored legislation making it easier for convicts to seek DNA testing that might prove their innocence."

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"Obama’s influence changed dramatically during his last two years in the Illinois Senate. That’s when Democrats won a majority in the chamber, giving them almost total control of the agenda.

Obama was able to pursue two issues that had been blocked for years — racial profiling by police and changes to the state’s death penalty system.

Rather than writing his own versions of the bills and then using the party’s new power to pass them, Obama teamed with Republican legislators and law enforcement groups. Together, they worked out compromises."

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"After federal officials agreed on an overhaul of the nation’s welfare system, Obama worked with Republicans to enact those changes in Illinois. During the debate, two GOP senators made a point of thanking Obama for his long hours of helping them improve the bill."

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Re: "Black folk got a chip on their shoulder"
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2008, 02:51:25 am »
LOL you just got Funcom'd
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Re: "Black folk got a chip on their shoulder"
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2008, 03:13:21 am »
Well, those are three moderately okay examples of him going with the majority (On issues where the Republicans and Democrats agree)... Three agreements versus how many disagreements with the majority?

Also, another think I noticed:

Quote #1: spending.
Quote #2: spending.
Quote #3: spending.

Sounds like taxing(/socialism).
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Re: "Black folk got a chip on their shoulder"
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2008, 04:01:59 am »
Also, another think I noticed:

Quote #1: spending.
Quote #2: spending.
Quote #3: spending.

Sounds like taxing(/socialism).

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/fiscal/

"Obama believes that a critical step in restoring fiscal discipline is enforcing pay-as-you-go (PAYGO) budgeting rules which require new spending commitments or tax changes to be paid for by cuts to other programs or new revenue."

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"Obama voted in 2005, 2006, and 2007 to reinstate pay-as-you-go (PAYGO) federal budget rules"

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Re: "Black folk got a chip on their shoulder"
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2008, 10:49:32 am »
It takes every "side" of an issue to come to the table willing to compromise and change for the better.  This is why I don't believe Barack Obama can really deliver on the "change" he promises.

Obama's State Senate Years Show Bipartisan Record

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“People on both sides of the aisle would find him to be someone who would reach across to find out why people think the way they do,” said William Mahar, a former Republican state senator. “He wouldn’t talk just to people who agreed with him.”

You mean like this?

George W. Bush was one of the most middle of the road presidents to be elected ... new story once IN office though.

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Re: "Black folk got a chip on their shoulder"
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2008, 01:33:41 pm »
Also, another think I noticed:

Quote #1: spending.
Quote #2: spending.
Quote #3: spending.

Sounds like taxing(/socialism).

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/fiscal/

"Obama believes that a critical step in restoring fiscal discipline is enforcing pay-as-you-go (PAYGO) budgeting rules which require new spending commitments or tax changes to be paid for by cuts to other programs or new revenue."

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"Obama voted in 2005, 2006, and 2007 to reinstate pay-as-you-go (PAYGO) federal budget rules"

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Both of those keep spending the same (Which is too high, and basically socialist.). I mean, really, what is he going to cut from to maintain national welfare, national health care, and some DNA testing thing that isn't going to work? Is he going to pull out of Iraq and use the same amount of money we've been spending over there? Oh yeah, that's such an economic drain we'll have the inflation rate of Nigeria in two years. Maybe we should just cut from education? But then as schools wouldn't exist anymore, Obama could fund public education for the poor, (and minorities). Maybe we could cut from military spending? Maybe we could sell all our military goods to China to help pay for the cost of something as ridiculous as national welfare/healthcare.

I don't know when socialism became acceptable in American government, but all I can do is laugh as our country fucking kills itself by the hands of these douchebags who can't properly interperet the ideas of freedom and equality. Enjoy your socialist presidency, not that McCain will be any better.
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