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Canadian beheaded on bus.
« on: July 31, 2008, 03:15:33 pm »
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080731.wmanbus0731/BNStory/National/home

WTF!?  Scary shit.  I bet he could've been stopped if someone had a gun ...
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2008, 03:47:25 pm »
Yeah, that was literally on the street I live on (though about 2 hours west).

I don't think a gun would have helped, considering the person had already been stabbed multiple times before anybody had noticed. Not to mention he was on the back of a bus filled with panicking passengers -- seems like the perfect time to accidentally shoot an innocent person.

So what ended up happening was:
- The guy who would have died anyways died
- The guy who did the stabbing was captured (and hopefully given treatment -- you don't stab somebody 60 times in a normal state of mind)
- Nobody else was hurt

I don't see any possible better outcome.

<edit> Wow, in my initial shock at it all, I hadn't even realized the obvious: zombies!

<edit2> http://www.zombiemeter.org/index.php?subaction=view&story_id=103
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2008, 04:17:35 pm »
Heh, that's pretty creepy.  Also, very zombie related.
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2008, 05:10:16 pm »
that guy is fucking awesome
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2008, 05:20:27 pm »
Quote from: CrAz3D on July 31, 2008, 03:15:33 pm
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080731.wmanbus0731/BNStory/National/home

WTF!?  Scary shit.  I bet he could've been stopped if someone had a gun ...

Why do you twist tragic deaths to attempt to prove some stupid political point?
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2008, 05:59:41 pm »
Quote from: Hitmen on July 31, 2008, 05:10:16 pm
that guy is fucking awesome
No. Just Fucking no.
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2008, 06:08:06 pm »
Quote from: Warrior on July 31, 2008, 05:20:27 pm
Quote from: CrAz3D on July 31, 2008, 03:15:33 pm
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080731.wmanbus0731/BNStory/National/home

WTF!?  Scary shit.  I bet he could've been stopped if someone had a gun ...

Why do you twist tragic deaths to attempt to prove some stupid political point?

why so serious?
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2008, 06:12:32 pm »
Quote from: dark_drake on July 31, 2008, 05:59:41 pm
Quote from: Hitmen on July 31, 2008, 05:10:16 pm
that guy is fucking awesome
No. Just Fucking no.

By awesome, Hitmen means brutal.  Yes, it is very brutal.
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2008, 06:28:56 pm »
Quote from: Warrior on July 31, 2008, 05:20:27 pm
Quote from: CrAz3D on July 31, 2008, 03:15:33 pm
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080731.wmanbus0731/BNStory/National/home

WTF!?  Scary shit.  I bet he could've been stopped if someone had a gun ...

Why do you twist tragic deaths to attempt to prove some stupid political point?
Jeez, don't go losing your head over this.  ::)
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2008, 06:46:02 pm »
Quote from: dark_drake on July 31, 2008, 06:28:56 pm
Quote from: Warrior on July 31, 2008, 05:20:27 pm
Quote from: CrAz3D on July 31, 2008, 03:15:33 pm
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080731.wmanbus0731/BNStory/National/home

WTF!?  Scary shit.  I bet he could've been stopped if someone had a gun ...

Why do you twist tragic deaths to attempt to prove some stupid political point?
Jeez, don't go losing your head over this.  ::)
Win!
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2008, 06:54:14 pm »
Haha, I didn't even catch that the first read.  Nice.  :)
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2008, 06:55:44 pm »
Quote from: dark_drake on July 31, 2008, 06:28:56 pm
Quote from: Warrior on July 31, 2008, 05:20:27 pm
Quote from: CrAz3D on July 31, 2008, 03:15:33 pm
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080731.wmanbus0731/BNStory/National/home

WTF!?  Scary shit.  I bet he could've been stopped if someone had a gun ...

Why do you twist tragic deaths to attempt to prove some stupid political point?
Jeez, don't go losing your head over this.  ::)

Rofl.
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2008, 07:03:14 pm »
But yeah, besides making the stupid jokes and zombie things and such, this does suck.

I wouldn't be even a little surprised if it turns out that I'm somehow connected to either the attacker or victim (this city rarely has more than 2 degrees of separation)
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2008, 07:13:29 pm »
Quote from: dark_drake on July 31, 2008, 06:28:56 pm
Quote from: Warrior on July 31, 2008, 05:20:27 pm
Quote from: CrAz3D on July 31, 2008, 03:15:33 pm
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080731.wmanbus0731/BNStory/National/home

WTF!?  Scary shit.  I bet he could've been stopped if someone had a gun ...

Why do you twist tragic deaths to attempt to prove some stupid political point?
Jeez, don't go losing your head over this.  ::)

Hahaha.
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2008, 02:44:58 am »
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2008, 03:06:02 am »
Put to death eh?  Good luck with that here.
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2008, 03:59:42 am »
Quote from: iago on July 31, 2008, 07:03:14 pm
But yeah, besides making the stupid jokes and zombie things and such, this does suck.

I wouldn't be even a little surprised if it turns out that I'm somehow connected to either the attacker or victim (this city rarely has more than 2 degrees of separation)


Gotta be hard to find a suitable mate, eh?
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2008, 09:41:42 am »
So, my friend's friend's dad was an officer on the scene.

Another friend's friend was supposed to be on that bus.

ANOTHER friend's friend WAS on that bus.

See what I mean? This is a small city. :)
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2008, 02:20:49 pm »
Holy shit! There was another decapitation in Greece.

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7539944.stm
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« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2008, 04:31:47 pm »
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,397102,00.html

!?  He was fucking eating him too?  Dude is fucking off his rocker.  They should just guillotine him now and be done with it!
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« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2008, 04:50:43 pm »
Quote from: CrAz3D on August 04, 2008, 04:31:47 pm
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!?  He was fucking eating him too?  Dude is fucking off his rocker.  They should just guillotine him now and be done with it!
If the guy was having a psychotic break/psychotic episode, doesn't it make more sense to treat him than to just kill him in an inhumane way? How would you feel if that guy was you/your kid/your parent/etc.?
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« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2008, 04:52:06 pm »
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« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2008, 04:55:48 pm »
crazy asians.

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« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2008, 04:57:21 pm »
Quote from: iago on August 04, 2008, 04:50:43 pm
Quote from: CrAz3D on August 04, 2008, 04:31:47 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,397102,00.html

!?  He was fucking eating him too?  Dude is fucking off his rocker.  They should just guillotine him now and be done with it!
If the guy was having a psychotic break/psychotic episode, doesn't it make more sense to treat him than to just kill him in an inhumane way? How would you feel if that guy was you/your kid/your parent/etc.?


He is FUBAR.  He is a threat to everyone he encounters.  There is no sense in wasting tax money on keeping this violent nut alive.  Unless you want to be responsible for him, I say end it.  It's just like an abortion, only he DESERVES it.

Also, if it were my kid/parent/etc ... I'd say do it.  It'd be a friggin' hard decision, but parents/kids disown their relatives all the time when they go off the deep end.
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Re: Chinese dude at man on bus
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2008, 09:19:38 pm »
Quote from: CrAz3D on August 04, 2008, 04:57:21 pm
He is FUBAR.  He is a threat to everyone he encounters.  There is no sense in wasting tax money on keeping this violent nut alive.  Unless you want to be responsible for him, I say end it.  It's just like an abortion, only he DESERVES it.

Also, if it were my kid/parent/etc ... I'd say do it.  It'd be a friggin' hard decision, but parents/kids disown their relatives all the time when they go off the deep end.
It turns out he's an undiagnosed schizophrenic. You do realize, that IS treatable?
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Re: Chinese dude at man on bus
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2008, 10:07:03 pm »
Quote from: iago on August 04, 2008, 09:19:38 pm
It turns out he's an undiagnosed schizophrenic. You do realize, that IS treatable?

I suspected that when I heard the full story.  It's probably mentioned in the article or somewhere in this thread, but I guess he sat by a different person at a different point on their trip and they had very normal conversation.  The person had no idea there was anything wrong with him.  That just screams mental illness.

I totally agree with iago.  While I don't think this should go unpunished and I do think the punishment should be severe, death is excessive.
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2008, 01:54:03 am »
Burn his head while he is ALIVE!
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2008, 03:32:13 am »
Quote from: CrAz3D on August 04, 2008, 04:57:21 pm
Quote from: iago on August 04, 2008, 04:50:43 pm
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,397102,00.html

!? He was fucking eating him too? Dude is fucking off his rocker. They should just guillotine him now and be done with it!
If the guy was having a psychotic break/psychotic episode, doesn't it make more sense to treat him than to just kill him in an inhumane way? How would you feel if that guy was you/your kid/your parent/etc.?


He is FUBAR. He is a threat to everyone he encounters. There is no sense in wasting tax money on keeping this violent nut alive. Unless you want to be responsible for him, I say end it. It's just like an abortion, only he DESERVES it.

Also, if it were my kid/parent/etc ... I'd say do it. It'd be a friggin' hard decision, but parents/kids disown their relatives all the time when they go off the deep end.

So you want to put him to death because he has a mental condition?

I think you have a mental condition, but you don't see me suggesting that we put you to death.
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Re: Canadian beheaded on bus.
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2008, 03:39:55 am »
Quote from: Bender on August 05, 2008, 03:32:13 am
I think you have a mental condition, but you don't see me suggesting that we put you to death.

You're just afraid he'll behead you on your way home from work if you suggest that.
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« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2008, 03:50:02 am »
Quote from: Camel on August 05, 2008, 03:39:55 am
Quote from: Bender on August 05, 2008, 03:32:13 am
I think you have a mental condition, but you don't see me suggesting that we put you to death.

You're just afraid he'll behead you on your way home from work if you suggest that.

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« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2008, 09:31:46 am »
I agree with Crazed in that this guy is a huge risk to society -- more so than most first degree murderers.  Even if he has schizophrenia and takes medication that helps him to some extent, I don't think he should be let free.

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« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2008, 09:48:24 am »
Quote from: Rule on August 05, 2008, 09:31:46 am
I agree with Crazed in that this guy is a huge risk to society -- more so than most first degree murderers.  Even if he has schizophrenia and takes medication that helps him to some extent, I don't think he should be let free.

I definitely agree with that part.  While I think it seems unfortunate and sad that this seems like the best thing to do, it also seems like it'd be a greater wrong to let him be free.
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« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2008, 10:04:14 am »
Quote from: Sidoh on August 05, 2008, 09:48:24 am
Quote from: Rule on August 05, 2008, 09:31:46 am
I agree with Crazed in that this guy is a huge risk to society -- more so than most first degree murderers.  Even if he has schizophrenia and takes medication that helps him to some extent, I don't think he should be let free.

I definitely agree with that part.  While I think it seems unfortunate and sad that this seems like the best thing to do, it also seems like it'd be a greater wrong to let him be free.

I think it depends if he's treatable or not. It's fully possible for an otherwise normal person to have a psychotic break, if they aren't taking proper medication.

That happened to my friend's husband, for example. Long story (that I've already posted here) short, he wasn't getting the right medication, had a break, tried to kill his ex-girlfriend (mistress?), ended up getting killed by the police.

It's a very unfortunate situation, but before the doctors screwed up he was living a perfectly normal life.
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« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2008, 10:10:03 am »
Quote from: Camel on August 05, 2008, 03:39:55 am
Quote from: Bender on August 05, 2008, 03:32:13 am
I think you have a mental condition, but you don't see me suggesting that we put you to death.

You're just afraid he'll behead you on your way home from work if you suggest that.

I was waiting for CrAz3D to deny that he himself even has a mental condition so that I could say crazy folks deny it. And then I was going to suggest we behead him. Way to ruin it. :(

Quote from: Rule on August 05, 2008, 09:31:46 am
I agree with Crazed in that this guy is a huge risk to society -- more so than most first degree murderers.  Even if he has schizophrenia and takes medication that helps him to some extent, I don't think he should be let free.

I agree, but death? Maybe it's due to the fact that I have a family member who's schizophrenic and has had outbursts in the past, but having received treatment, he's sort of mellowed out. Sure, there's the likelihood that he'll go berserker mode, more so than the next guy, but still...
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