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CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« on: September 03, 2008, 06:28:48 pm »
http://www.lcsun-news.com/ci_10367271?source=most_viewed

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LAS CRUCES — The number of Doña Ana County residents with permits to carry concealed handguns has more than doubled in less than a year.

Figures from the New Mexico Department of Public Safety show that, as of Friday, 951 people in Doña Ana County have a license to carry a firearm. And, a disproportionate number of them — 82 percent — are men. As of late last September, 455 residents in Doña Ana County had concealed-carry licenses — 373 were men and 82 were women.

Over the same time period, the statewide total went from about 7,000 to 10,687.

Firearm safety instructors and gun retailers said the spike can be attributed to current events and the gun-carrier's personal situation and experiences.

The state requires a training course to obtain a concealed carry permit. Eddie Garcia is one of the state-approved instructors, and teaches in
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Doña Ana and other counties.

He said he gets about 15 calls a day inquiring about the three-day course.

"It just depends on what's going on in people's lives," Garcia said, explaining the spike. "There's always a reason for wanting to do it. It's because something has happened to them that they want to protect themselves."

Rey Gonzales, owner of Custom Cartridge gun store in Las Cruces, said the reason for the spike in permits is crime.

"It shouldn't surprise you," he said. "Crime's up, concealed carry goes up. Especially with the stuff going on across the border."

The state's concealed carry law was signed in 2003. By the end of 2004, the first full year the law was in effect, 121 permits had been granted in Doña Ana County. A total of 786 men have licenses in the county, including one between the ages of 95 and 99.

The figures also show that if you're a man, the older you are, the more likely you are to have a concealed carry license.

A breakdown by gender shows 21 men between the ages of 20 and 24 had license. That drops to 20 for the ages of 25 to 29. But the number steadily increases from there, topping out at 126 licenses for men between the ages of 60 and 64.

"They're more vulnerable to (crime)," gunsmith Emerson Gates said of older individuals. "They can feel it. They want to do whatever they can to ameliorate that."

Women between the ages of 50 to 54 accounted for 37 of 165 licenses issued to women in Doña Ana County.


Nifty!  I still need to get on the stick and find time to get mine.  I gotta find a weekend, an instructor and hop-to.\


1,000 people = about 0.5% of our population.



In the comment section someone wrote about paranoia.  This response is one of the best things I've ever read: "Why is firearm paranoia, and fire extinguisher preparation?"  The commenters also mention our university restriction, WHICH, by the way, I haven't received a response from either my State Senator or State Rep. :(.  Guess I oughta call them??
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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2008, 07:48:17 pm »
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"Why is firearm paranoia, and fire extinguisher preparation?"

Well, for starters, if you're drunk, it's a lot harder to kill someone with a fire extinguisher.  If you're upset, irrational or many other things, the same applies.
And like a fool I believed myself, and thought I was somebody else...

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2008, 10:46:56 pm »
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"Why is firearm paranoia, and fire extinguisher preparation?"

Well, for starters, if you're drunk, it's a lot harder to kill someone with a fire extinguisher.  If you're upset, irrational or many other things, the same applies.

I think it's deeper than that -- fire extinguishers were designed to save lives, and firearms were designed to take lives.

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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2008, 11:05:33 pm »
Taking a life can, in turn, save lives.

Both can be used for good or bad.  *shrug*

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2008, 11:28:42 pm »
Taking a life can, in turn, save lives.

Both can be used for good or bad.  *shrug*
How often do you hear of somebody using a fire extinguisher for bad? :P

Next thing you know, we'll be hearing about a "school extinguishing", where kids brought in fire extinguishers from home and..... nevermind.

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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2008, 11:29:56 pm »
How often do you hear of a non-criminal using a gun for bad?

Only bad guys using things for bad purposes.  Ban bad guys, not their tools.

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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2008, 11:46:40 pm »
How often do you hear of a non-criminal using a gun for bad?

Only bad guys using things for bad purposes.  Ban bad guys, not their tools.

I see what you did there. Almost no non-criminals use a gun for bad.. all the people who use the guns for bad are criminals. And shiet, there's alot of them. And plenty of them got their guns legally, utilizing the 2nd amendment.
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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2008, 11:48:13 pm »
Most of 'em got their guns illegally.

My step(?)-cousin's friend sold illegal gun from MX out of his trunk at the high school

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2008, 01:04:05 am »
How often do you hear of a non-criminal using a gun for bad?

Only bad guys using things for bad purposes.  Ban bad guys, not their tools.
You just proved to everybody that you really are an idiot.

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2008, 01:28:24 am »
How often do you hear of a non-criminal using a gun for bad?

You usually hear about it after, when they've become the criminal. Duh?
Your argument here suggests that there is no such thing as first timers in gun crimes.
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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2008, 08:26:24 am »
How often do you hear of a non-criminal using a gun for bad?

Only bad guys using things for bad purposes.  Ban bad guys, not their tools.
When was the last time you heard of anybody using a fire extinguisher for bad?

Both can be used for good or bad.  *shrug*

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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2008, 08:41:11 am »
Even though I hate craz#d, it seems it's fair to point out this (SFW)

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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2008, 09:34:52 am »
Even though I hate craz#d, it seems it's fair to point out this (SFW)
Well, if you count bludgeoning, then basically anything can be used "for bad". Maybe that's what he's talking about, but it isn't what I meant.

What I meant was based on what it does (by design) -- like randomly putting out important fires or something.

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2008, 12:46:10 pm »
Even though I hate craz#d, it seems it's fair to point out this (SFW)


"Duped lover accused of killing transsexual with fire extinguisher"

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2008, 01:24:14 pm »
Even though I hate craz#d, it seems it's fair to point out this (SFW)
Well, if you count bludgeoning, then basically anything can be used "for bad". Maybe that's what he's talking about, but it isn't what I meant.

What I meant was based on what it does (by design) -- like randomly putting out important fires or something.

Well, then you can say that guns aren't designed to kill people either, and thus they are fine.  They are used by police (with non-lethal force, I might add) to prevent/stop crime.