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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2008, 01:28:45 pm »
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Well, if you count bludgeoning, then basically anything can be used "for bad". Maybe that's what he's talking about, but it isn't what I meant.

What I meant was based on what it does (by design) -- like randomly putting out important fires or something.

Well, then you can say that guns aren't designed to kill people either, and thus they are fine.  They are used by police (with non-lethal force, I might add) to prevent/stop crime.

What practical purpose do guns have other than to kill/destroy/threaten?
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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2008, 01:31:14 pm »
Even though I hate craz#d, it seems it's fair to point out this (SFW)
Well, if you count bludgeoning, then basically anything can be used "for bad". Maybe that's what he's talking about, but it isn't what I meant.

What I meant was based on what it does (by design) -- like randomly putting out important fires or something.

Well, then you can say that guns aren't designed to kill people either, and thus they are fine.  They are used by police (with non-lethal force, I might add) to prevent/stop crime.

What practical purpose do guns have other than to kill/destroy/threaten?
They don't have those purposes at all.  Bullets kill, destroy, and threaten.  It's just that people mistakenly blame the gun.  As I said before, guns are not evil.  They can be loaded with rubber bullets to take down a dangerous criminal without hurting anyone, or they can be loaded with powerful tranquilizers so that bears won't be able to [completely] maul you to death next time you get drunk and fall into a bear den at the zoo.

All in all, if guns didn't exist, there would be a lot more bear maulings.

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2008, 02:29:20 pm »
They don't have those purposes at all.  Bullets kill, destroy, and threaten.  It's just that people mistakenly blame the gun.  As I said before, guns are not evil.  They can be loaded with rubber bullets to take down a dangerous criminal without hurting anyone, or they can be loaded with powerful tranquilizers so that bears won't be able to [completely] maul you to death next time you get drunk and fall into a bear den at the zoo.

All in all, if guns didn't exist, there would be a lot more bear maulings.
Guns are designed to kill, period. That's why they were invented, and that's why people typically carry them.

That's not the reason that fire extinguishers are put on walls and throughout buildings.

Think of it this way -- why aren't there guns attached to the wall throughout buildings, with a little sign that says "break in case of emergency"? Because they're inherently dangerous.

And that's why guns are paranoia while fire extinguishers are preparedness. :P

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2008, 03:10:57 pm »
Think of it this way -- why aren't there guns attached to the wall throughout buildings, with a little sign that says "break in case of emergency"? Because they're inherently dangerous.
That's actually a brilliant idea!  ;D
errr... something like that...

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2008, 03:14:11 pm »
Think of it this way -- why aren't there guns attached to the wall throughout buildings, with a little sign that says "break in case of emergency"? Because they're inherently dangerous.
For the same reason that bacon isn't: while awesome and desirable, in the wrong hands it can cause severe heart problems.

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2008, 03:16:25 pm »
PEOPLE kill/destroy/threaten ... not inanimate objects

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2008, 03:53:54 pm »
PEOPLE kill/destroy/threaten ... not inanimate objects
That'd be great, if I said that guns kill. But I didn't, I said that they're designed to kill.

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2008, 03:55:09 pm »
Guns are designed to eject a projectile.
Bullets are designed to puncture a certain object.


NEITHER are designed to kill.

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2008, 04:10:27 pm »
Guns are designed to eject a projectile.
Bullets are designed to puncture a certain object.


NEITHER are designed to kill.
Why are guns built, if it's not to kill?

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2008, 04:16:51 pm »
Hunt, sport, defense are other occurrences PEOPLE might use them for.

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2008, 04:25:30 pm »
Hunt, sport, defense are other occurrences PEOPLE might use them for.
Hunt -- killing
Defense -- killing
Sport, without live animals, isn't killing, but guns aren't generally designed to just shoot at targets.

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2008, 04:37:49 pm »
The goal of the person is to kill.  It is never the goal of a gun.

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2008, 04:42:07 pm »
The goal of the person is to kill.  It is never the goal of a gun.
Except for the part you're forgetting: guns are designed to kill.

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2008, 04:53:38 pm »
Guns are designed to eject a projectile

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Re: CCW permits DOUBLED since Sept. in my county.
« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2008, 04:55:35 pm »
And guillotines are designed to drop a sharp blade.