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Re: Michael Phelps gets caught smoking marijuana...
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2009, 08:09:28 pm »
...and it's a personal choice to use ____________ in moderation
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Re: Michael Phelps gets caught smoking marijuana...
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2009, 08:17:03 pm »
...and it's a personal choice to use _genocide_ in moderation
Hmm, it seems that your philosophy is flawed.

what if the group is infected with a deadly communicable disease?
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Re: Michael Phelps gets caught smoking marijuana...
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2009, 08:19:43 pm »
...and it's a personal choice to use _genocide_ in moderation
Hmm, it seems that your philosophy is flawed.

what if the group is infected with a deadly communicable disease?

Quarantine?

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Re: Michael Phelps gets caught smoking marijuana...
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2009, 09:13:46 pm »
...and it's a personal choice to use _genocide_ in moderation
Hmm, it seems that your philosophy is flawed.

what if the group is infected with a deadly communicable disease?

Quarantine?
Yeah!  Black people spread AIDS and war, and what did we do?  We stuck them in Africa and Camden!

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Re: Michael Phelps gets caught smoking marijuana...
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2009, 10:08:00 pm »
...and it's a personal choice to use _genocide_ in moderation
Hmm, it seems that your philosophy is flawed.

what if the group is infected with a deadly communicable disease?

Quarantine?
Yeah!  Black people spread AIDS and war, and what did we do?  We stuck them in Africa and Camden!
And the white house!

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Re: Michael Phelps gets caught smoking marijuana...
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2009, 03:13:18 am »
...and it's a personal choice to use _genocide_ in moderation
Hmm, it seems that your philosophy is flawed.

what if the group is infected with a deadly communicable disease?

Quarantine?
Yeah!  Black people spread AIDS and war, and what did we do?  We stuck them in Africa and Camden!
And the white house!


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I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: Michael Phelps gets caught smoking marijuana...
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2009, 08:27:16 am »
...and it's a personal choice to use _genocide_ in moderation
Hmm, it seems that your philosophy is flawed.

what if the group is infected with a deadly communicable disease?

Quarantine?
Yeah!  Black people spread AIDS and war, and what did we do?  We stuck them in Africa and Camden!
And the white house!


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Re: Michael Phelps gets caught smoking marijuana...
« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2009, 01:41:51 pm »
Did anyone watch the video clip on that site Newby linked? lol.  Amazing how they seemed to think DUI and smoking weed at a party are somehow comparable offenses.


They're both illegal and that's all that matters.

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Re: Michael Phelps gets caught smoking marijuana...
« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2009, 01:43:11 pm »
Did anyone watch the video clip on that site Newby linked? lol.  Amazing how they seemed to think DUI and smoking weed at a party are somehow comparable offenses.


They're both illegal and that's all that matters.

I understand what you're saying, but compare it to, say, murder or rape. They're also illegal, but they aren't comparable offences.

(well, maybe murder + DUI are, in a way, but that's besides the point :P )

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Re: Michael Phelps gets caught smoking marijuana...
« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2009, 01:46:42 pm »
Did anyone watch the video clip on that site Newby linked? lol.  Amazing how they seemed to think DUI and smoking weed at a party are somehow comparable offenses.


They're both illegal and that's all that matters.

I understand what you're saying, but compare it to, say, murder or rape. They're also illegal, but they aren't comparable offences.

(well, maybe murder + DUI are, in a way, but that's besides the point :P )

People who get drunk at parties don't always stay there until they sober up, people that get high at parties don't always stay they until they come down from it.  I've had to have full out fights with friends who were high / drunk so many times to let me drive them home.
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Re: Michael Phelps gets caught smoking marijuana...
« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2009, 01:51:20 pm »
Did anyone watch the video clip on that site Newby linked? lol.  Amazing how they seemed to think DUI and smoking weed at a party are somehow comparable offenses.


They're both illegal and that's all that matters.

I understand what you're saying, but compare it to, say, murder or rape. They're also illegal, but they aren't comparable offences.

(well, maybe murder + DUI are, in a way, but that's besides the point :P )

People who get drunk at parties don't always stay there until they sober up, people that get high at parties don't always stay they until they come down from it.  I've had to have full out fights with friends who were high / drunk so many times to let me drive them home.

That isn't at all what you said in your post. You said that they're comparable because they're both illegal "and that's all that matters".

As I said, I understand what you're saying, but I don't think you're saying it correctly. :P

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Re: Michael Phelps gets caught smoking marijuana...
« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2009, 02:07:18 pm »
Did anyone watch the video clip on that site Newby linked? lol.  Amazing how they seemed to think DUI and smoking weed at a party are somehow comparable offenses.


They're both illegal and that's all that matters.


All things that are illegal are equally bad? 

Also: There's a difference between drinking, and driving under influence.  Just like there's a difference between smoking pot, and driving high.  People who engage in A may do B, but that doesn't mean A is just as bad as B.

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Re: Michael Phelps gets caught smoking marijuana...
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2009, 02:15:24 pm »
People who get drunk at parties don't always stay there until they sober up, people that get high at parties don't always stay they until they come down from it.  I've had to have full out fights with friends who were high / drunk so many times to let me drive them home.

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“For each of 2,500 injured drivers presenting to a hospital, a blood sample was collected for later analysis.

There was a clear relationship between alcohol and culpability.  … In contrast, there was no significant increase in culpability for cannabinoids alone. While a relatively large number of injured drivers tested positive for cannabinoids, culpability rates were no higher than those for the drug free group.  This is consistent with other findings.”
Source: Logan, M.C., Hunter, C.E., Lokan, R.J., White, J.M., & White, M.A. (2000). The Prevalence of Alcohol, Cannabinoids, Benzodiazepines and Stimulants Amongst Injured Drivers and Their Role in Driver Culpability: Part II: The Relationship Between Drug Prevalence and Drug Concentration, and Driver Culpability.  Accident Analysis and Prevention, 32, 623-32.

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“Marijuana's effects on actual driving performance were assessed in a series of three studies wherein dose-effect relationships were measured in actual driving situations that progressively approached reality.

… THC's effects on road-tracking after doses up to 300 µg/kg never exceeded alcohol's at bacs of 0.08%; and, were in no way unusual compared to many medicinal drugs. Yet, THC's effects differ qualitatively from many other drugs, especially alcohol. Evidence from the present and previous studies strongly suggests that alcohol encourages risky driving whereas THC encourages greater caution, at least in experiments. Another way THC seems to differ qualitatively from many other drugs is that the formers users seem better able to compensate for its adverse effects while driving under the influence.”
Source: http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Misc/driving/s1p2.htm

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[M]arijuana's slight impairment on psychomotor skills generally falls within the range of safety Americans accept for prescription medications and other legal, potentially debilitating factors such as fatigue or cell phones.
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Re: Michael Phelps gets caught smoking marijuana...
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2009, 02:18:50 pm »
Yeah, being high doesn't really impair driving, it just makes it take forever.
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Re: Michael Phelps gets caught smoking marijuana...
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2009, 03:42:55 pm »
I think self-perception of driving impairment is higher than actual driving impairment.
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