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Re: 8 arrested in Phelps-pot ordeal
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2009, 07:47:44 pm »
Quote from: Warrior on February 10, 2009, 07:29:46 pm
However, there's always the money saved from releasing inmates held on possession and trafficking, since that costs a ton from the federal budget a year, not to mention it breeds true criminals.
Sure, go raise the unemployment rate! ;)
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Re: 8 arrested in Phelps-pot ordeal
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2009, 07:51:13 pm »
Guess I got owned there :/.
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Re: 8 arrested in Phelps-pot ordeal
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2009, 07:53:41 pm »
Quote from: Rupert on February 10, 2009, 07:35:39 pm
Quote from: Warrior on February 10, 2009, 06:59:58 pm
Legalize it, regulate it, tax it, create jobs.
This is a progressive issue, glad to see Craz3d is aboard with the Dems :).
erything has to be political with you.. :(

I just enjoy pointing out when progressive issues manifest themselves in everyday situations. It's strange to me how conservatives are against Government intervention in this case :).

This is fun to me.
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Re: 8 arrested in Phelps-pot ordeal
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2009, 07:55:48 pm »
Quote from: Warrior on February 10, 2009, 06:59:58 pm
Legalize it, regulate it, tax it, create jobs.
This is a progressive issue, glad to see Craz3d is aboard with the Dems :).

It would decrease jobs, think about how many law enforcement (DEA especially) agents are employed because of the massive-scale war on drugs, marijuana being at the forefront. It's all political.

Legalization would save the government a lot of money though, so perhaps they could still employ these agents and shift the focus to synthetic drugs that are tearing families apart --- or alcohol abuse, which is an even worse and more widespread issue.
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Re: 8 arrested in Phelps-pot ordeal
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2009, 07:57:38 pm »
Quote from: Warrior on February 10, 2009, 07:53:41 pm
Quote from: Rupert on February 10, 2009, 07:35:39 pm
Quote from: Warrior on February 10, 2009, 06:59:58 pm
Legalize it, regulate it, tax it, create jobs.
This is a progressive issue, glad to see Craz3d is aboard with the Dems :).
erything has to be political with you.. :(

I just enjoy pointing out when progressive issues manifest themselves in everyday situations. It's strange to me how conservatives are against Government intervention in this case :).

This is fun to me.


Conservatives should be against Government intervention. Conservatives are for small government. Drugs are a states issue, although they shouldn't be an issue at all because of the Constitution. But definitely liberals would be more pro-government intervention than conservatives.

Please note that I'm not using "Conservative" and "Liberal" to refer to "Republicans" or "Democrats".
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Re: 8 arrested in Phelps-pot ordeal
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2009, 07:58:31 pm »
Quote from: truste1 on February 10, 2009, 07:55:48 pm
Quote from: Warrior on February 10, 2009, 06:59:58 pm
Legalize it, regulate it, tax it, create jobs.
This is a progressive issue, glad to see Craz3d is aboard with the Dems :).

It would decrease jobs, think about how many law enforcement (DEA especially) agents are employed because of the massive-scale war on drugs, marijuana being at the forefront. It's all political.

Legalization would save the government a lot of money though, so perhaps they could still employ these agents and shift the focus to synthetic drugs that are tearing families apart --- or alcohol abuse, which is an even worse and more widespread issue.

True, I never thought of it from that point of view. Hmm.
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Re: 8 arrested in Phelps-pot ordeal
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2009, 07:59:44 pm »
Quote from: truste1 on February 10, 2009, 07:57:38 pm
Conservatives should be against Government intervention. Conservatives are for small government. Drugs are a states issue, although they shouldn't be an issue at all because of the Constitution. But definitely liberals would be more pro-government intervention than conservatives.

Please note that I'm not using "Conservative" and "Liberal" to refer to "Republicans" or "Democrats".

Oops, I meant it's interesting how they're for government intervention (Ban on Marijuana) when they're usually against Government intervention.

One would think they'd be falling over themselves to have less Government telling them what to do with their bodies.
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Re: 8 arrested in Phelps-pot ordeal
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2009, 08:03:07 pm »
And this Sheriff is doing his job, there's nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately he's doing it in a biased and unfair way. There was no need to charge anybody in this incident aside form self-gain sought by the sheriff. He'll get his 15 minutes in the spotlight while potentially tarnishing the records of otherwise (to our knowledge) good citizens.

In my opinion the worst part about pot is where it comes from and what it funds. If government-regulated marijuana were legal, I'm not even saying all marijuana was legal (i.e. ban privately grown plants), it would cut out funding for criminal organizations. But if we stop funding criminal organizations, then there's no criminal organizations for the government to fight. If the government has nobody to fight...
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Re: 8 arrested in Phelps-pot ordeal
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2009, 08:07:20 pm »
Quote from: Warrior on February 10, 2009, 07:59:44 pm
Quote from: truste1 on February 10, 2009, 07:57:38 pm
Conservatives should be against Government intervention. Conservatives are for small government. Drugs are a states issue, although they shouldn't be an issue at all because of the Constitution. But definitely liberals would be more pro-government intervention than conservatives.

Please note that I'm not using "Conservative" and "Liberal" to refer to "Republicans" or "Democrats".

Oops, I meant it's interesting how they're for government intervention (Ban on Marijuana) when they're usually against Government intervention.

One would think they'd be falling over themselves to have less Government telling them what to do with their bodies.

You're exactly right, that's how conservatives should be. Unfortunately, the Republican party has lost touch with its Conservative roots. I'm definitely watching the slow rise of the third parties (mainly the Constitution Party), something that could be augmented by Obama's election and the collapse/restructuring of the Republican party.
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Re: 8 arrested in Phelps-pot ordeal
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2009, 08:08:36 pm »
Quote from: iago on February 10, 2009, 07:47:44 pm
Quote from: Warrior on February 10, 2009, 07:29:46 pm
However, there's always the money saved from releasing inmates held on possession and trafficking, since that costs a ton from the federal budget a year, not to mention it breeds true criminals.
Sure, go raise the unemployment rate! ;)


If marijuana's legalized, cultivators, distributors, and traffickers could be employed. People aren't really held for possession that much I don't think, but they're probably already employed since they bought it.

Edit: Sorry for the triple post, I replied as I read them. Feel free to consolidate.
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Re: 8 arrested in Phelps-pot ordeal
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2009, 09:57:06 pm »
Triple posting while talking to different posts is perfectly fine!
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Re: 8 arrested in Phelps-pot ordeal
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2009, 10:24:42 pm »
Oh, I almost forgot: foxnews
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Re: 8 arrested in Phelps-pot ordeal
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2009, 10:35:15 pm »
Guys, you seen foxnews today? Sean Hannity drank a beer. He's my hero. Maybe I'll convince him that Miller High Life is the best.
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Re: 8 arrested in Phelps-pot ordeal
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2009, 10:46:59 pm »
Sean Hannity should be on comedy central
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Re: 8 arrested in Phelps-pot ordeal
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2009, 07:28:23 am »
lol, I thought of every argument in here before I read them. How am I supposed to contribute to this thread if you voice my opinions before I get here?

A note about less DEA-- I don't believe legalizing marijuana will remove jobs from it. I just think that they will be able to spend their resources catching other things... like meth :P
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