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Should x86 upgrade the forum software to SMF2?

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Forum Software
« on: August 27, 2009, 08:19:22 pm »
iago has stated that he won't update the forum to a non-release version that would potentially cause problems for a lot of users.  So, I've come to you, the users, to find out what you want.

Current Software
Pros
We've been using it for a while, so we know how it works.
It's still well supported.

Cons
The permissions are (apparently) the spawn of Satan

New Software
Pros
It's just as well supported as the current software
Many new features and fixes (like permissions - they've been cleaned up)

Cons
It's been labeled as RC for a long time

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Re: Forum Software
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2009, 08:32:54 pm »
Yeah, let's rest security on the shoulders of public opinion. Brilliant idea.
Except its not.
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Re: Forum Software
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2009, 08:33:05 pm »
If somebody wants to take over maintaining the server, and is willing to make a longterm commitment (including backups and such -- not a half assed attempt), I'll gladly send them the database and transfer the domain to their ownership.

If everybody prefers that I keep running the server, I'll use the software I like and upgrade when I feel comfortable with upgrading.

If you don't like the way I run the server, volunteer your time/bandwidth to host it yourself, or kindly f*** off.

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Re: Forum Software
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2009, 08:35:34 pm »
rabbit, these kind of threads do nothing but divide the clan.
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Re: Forum Software
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2009, 08:36:05 pm »
Also, good luck beating my vote. :D

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Re: Forum Software
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2009, 08:39:17 pm »
Yeah, iago enlisted the help of Trolls & Co.
The result? A landslide victory.
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Re: Forum Software
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2009, 08:40:26 pm »
Nah, rabbit just forgot to take into account that my vote counts for 1000000000 points. Sadly, the software could only handle the first 65000 of them. :(

<edit> For what it's worth, rabbit, you totally fail to mention in the question that you're asking me to install non-release software. Once it's released, I'll install it.

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Re: Forum Software
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2009, 08:42:01 pm »
iago told me he wouldn't do something that would affect most users.  So I figured I'd let the users voice their opinion in a poll.  I never said he had to do anything as a result of the thread, and he never said he would.  This wasn't official in any way.  Why are you being such an ass about it, Warrior?

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@iago: and we don't know when that will happen.  They've been on RC2 for a long while now.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2009, 08:44:25 pm by rabbit »

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Re: Forum Software
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2009, 08:43:09 pm »
iago told me he wouldn't do something that would affect most users.
I said I wouldn't install non-released software (it's in the final stages of beta, which is still beta), that'll potentially affect a lot of users.

Warrior's being an ass about it because that's what he does. The irony is that, as much as I hate to say it, Warrior is the voice of reason for once.

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Re: Forum Software
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2009, 08:43:26 pm »
I have to look out for the best interests of my organization.
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Re: Forum Software
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2009, 09:09:45 pm »
Yeah, let's rest security on the shoulders of public opinion. Brilliant idea.
Except its not.
All OSS rests its security on the shoulders of public opinion.  In fact, I'd go so far as to say all software rests its security on the shoulders of public opinion.
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Re: Forum Software
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2009, 09:11:04 pm »
Yeah, let's rest security on the shoulders of public opinion. Brilliant idea.
Except its not.
All OSS rests its security on the shoulders of public opinion.  In fact, I'd go so far as to say all software rests its security on the shoulders of public opinion.

So you're in favor of a fucking poll dictating the decisions we should make regarding security? Think.
I'll say it again actually:

Think.
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Re: Forum Software
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2009, 09:13:19 pm »
To be fair, security isn't my top concern here. I'm more worried about usability, and proper migration (last thing I want to do is hose the database, or be unable to properly upgrade again down the road when 2.0 proper comes out)

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Re: Forum Software
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2009, 09:14:36 pm »
65,535 people think myndfyre is wrong.
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Re: Forum Software
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2009, 09:16:35 pm »
65,535 people think myndfyre is wrong.
Nono, I explained this. It's one person who gets 1,000,000,000 votes, most of which weren't counted.

I wonder, if one more person votes 'yes' does it reset to 0?