And this demonstrates an ignorance of supernatural Christian evangelism/conversion taking place in Muslim countries. The underground Christian movement is strongest in Iran, although it is comparable to that of China so to say which is stronger would be hard. Most of these Muslims who are converting over to Christianity testify that the reason was either a dream or a vision of a man in a white robe who claimed to be Jesus Christ the Son of God and that he was calling them into His kingdom or that they experience some sort of creative miracle or healing in there body being prayed for in the name of Jesus Christ. Most of this is taking place independent of western Christianity and some of it separate from any Christian missionary works altogether, i.e. the claimed dreams and visions.
I was not aware of such a movement, but I'm still unconvinced it matters. The number of Christians per capita in countries like Iran are seem to be attributable to probability. 2% of the religious population in Iran is something other than Islam, and I'm not sure what part of that is Christian. The fact remains: almost every person in Iran dies without accepting Jesus Christ. Doesn't this mean they'll go to hell?
What you say about the dream is interesting, and I'd be interested to see a source.
Sidoh a thoughtful reading of the material I have posted would draw ample conclusion of why I believe the vast majority of your arguments are false, as well as the reasoning of why I am not going to go round and round with you or anyone else on the matters. Are you willing to get over yourself? Because I will tell you that I am sprinting in the direction of getting over myself and my need to be right in the eyes of others. Write me of as whatever you like, but these long drawn out arguments are unfruitful and a waste of my time. Like I have said time and time again I am interested in my experience with God, and whatever experience God may grant another.
I don't think the arguments are even close to unfruitful. I think you're approaching them assuming the conclusion is false, and most of your responses reflect this. You tend to say things that are mostly irrelevant. For example, even if the number of Christians in Iran is increasing, that does not change the fact that the amount is still negligible, and that almost everyone in Iran dies and goes to hell. I'm asking you to explain why this is. Even if it is "getting better", that does not do anything to change the thousands of years that have passed.
Why does God love people in Iran less than he loves the people in America?
Based on... that he isn't compelling people to follow him?
I'm trying to determine how you're quantifying God's love.
no, based on the culture and the environment. Christianity is less tolerated, less promoted and less prevalent in Iran. Why is it that a person born in Iran has a massively greater chance of going to hell than someone who's born in America? Does God put all of the souls he loves into bodies born in America?
Still along the lines of thoughtfulness, you have made clear your position that God and His existence can not be proven nor as you have stated can it be disproved. It is not my desire hear to argue this claim, rather I ask that you stick with your original arguments for the remainder of our conversations. Now if He cannot be disproved I fail to understand how you can here begin to lean in one direction…is there some sort of faith at work here?
This is probably the most naive argument that I hear. Unfortunately, it's rather common.
Are you familiar with the burden of proof? Why is it that you reject the existence of Zeus even though his existence cannot be disproved? I don't think it's
impossible that God exists, and I don't
know that God doesn't exist, I do, however,
believe (quite strongly) that God does not exist. I am unfamiliar with any meaningful evidence that suggests God exists, and I am familiar with evidence that suggests a literal interpretation of the Bible is inconsistent with simple observation. This is why I reject the existence of God, and why I'm rather convinced that the God of Christianity is even more unlikely.
Faith that he probably does not exist and therefore you lean in a direction to which you have stated there cannot be any objective proof? A direction to which you seem to have stated that you will neither agree nor disagree rather that you'd just walk in a way that is natural to you...
I don't think faith is appropriate to describe my beliefs. Instead of blabbering on, I suggest you read this and trust my response would be similar:
http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Atheism_is_based_on_faith
