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Offline CrAz3D

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Bin Laden down
« on: May 01, 2011, 11:00:59 pm »
That's all she wrote? Symbolic victory? Whatever.

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Re: Bin Laden down
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2011, 11:02:45 pm »
Meaningless, but I predict this will be a big++ deal.

People are a lot better at being afraid of things when they can put a face on it. The government made him into the face of terrorism, which made it easier for people to be afraid of terrorism. Ohwell :)

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Re: Bin Laden down
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2011, 11:07:52 pm »
al-Qaeda #1 is dead. al-Qaeda #2 is now #1, and we're just as far away from finding him as we were on 9/11.

It's a symbolic victory, but we haven't won anything.
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Re: Bin Laden down
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2011, 11:30:01 pm »
Meaningless, but I predict this will be a big++ deal.
big++ deal. prepare to stomach every shithead's interpretation of this meaningless peace of news.

Conspiracy theories initiate.

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oh world, please spare me this time.
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Re: Bin Laden down
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2011, 11:35:07 pm »
GOP = GFP come 2012 (Grand Fucked Party). Unless Obama's caught murdering someone with his bare hands, he's got this in the bag.
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Re: Bin Laden down
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2011, 12:11:50 am »
I first found out about an hour ago.  Since, then, 11 different people have told me (not including this thread).  I am officially tired of this newsline.

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Re: Bin Laden down
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2011, 01:04:16 am »
Meaningless, but I predict this will be a big++ deal.

HOLY SHIT, YOU'RE A PROPHET.

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Re: Bin Laden down
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2011, 02:47:22 am »
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: Bin Laden down
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2011, 09:10:31 am »
This is the kind of the thing where if Republicans do it, people are ECSTATIC.  (e.g. Saddam Hussein).  If Obama does it, people go... hmm, whatever, lets find a way to criticize him for telling us this, because we don't like Obama. It's because the  "we want revenge" people are mostly Republicans (or against Obama anyway), and they will not like Obama no matter what he does.  They can take a piece of news that would normally make them really happy, and find a way to criticise it terribly if Obama's name is attached to it.  There's also the fact that Republicans are brilliant at PR and Democrats are not.  I am just speculating though, it will be interesting to see the general reaction.

Having said that, my opinion is that this is objectively meaningless.  Osama was just like 'Goldstein' in 1984.  Despite what I've written above, I think this will help Obama's popularity, and it will help diffuse some of the stupid shit Republicans were flinging at him (though, as above, I don't think anyone who was previously convinced that Obama was a Muslim terrorist will be voting for him now that he has removed Osama, and a lot of people who would normally love this kind of thing will hypocritically not be impressed or even go out of their way to find fault with it).
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Re: Bin Laden down
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2011, 10:16:17 am »
Where has anyone criticized obama for it?

That said, I saw this on Fark: http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/02/6568249-we-think-that-bin-laden-death-photo-is-a-fake

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Re: Bin Laden down
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2011, 11:30:32 am »
I'm skeptical. Anyone have any evidence that we really killed him?
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Re: Bin Laden down
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2011, 11:49:25 am »
My biggest criticism is that the war has caused over 100,000 deaths and $1 trillion to be spent. Was the price really worth it? And, it's not like the war's going to stop because of it.

My favourite quote from Twitter has been, "All right, he's dead, can we have our rights back now?"

Where has anyone criticized obama for it?
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Re: Bin Laden down
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2011, 12:37:53 pm »
I'm skeptical. Anyone have any evidence that we really killed him?

It would be a dumb thing to lie about.  If they hadn't actually killed him, wouldn't Osama be ecstatic to go and release another video to erode US credibility?

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Re: Bin Laden down
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2011, 12:48:56 pm »
I'm skeptical. Anyone have any evidence that we really killed him?

It would be a dumb thing to lie about.  If they hadn't actually killed him, wouldn't Osama be ecstatic to go and release another video to erode US credibility?

If we're trying to locate him, maybe not.

This could be a political stunt for all we know. However, the Pentagon claims they have photos of his body and will release them eventually. Until then, all we have to go by are words.
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Re: Bin Laden down
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2011, 12:55:08 pm »
I'm skeptical. Anyone have any evidence that we really killed him?

It would be a dumb thing to lie about.  If they hadn't actually killed him, wouldn't Osama be ecstatic to go and release another video to erode US credibility?

Perhaps he's been dead for years? :)