Bah! Bill Gates, suck it.

[Screenor]

Well, richest man in the world (Bill Gates, duh), creator/owner of Microsoft blah blah blah you now how it goes, anyways, here it is:

Microsoft blocks pirated copies from Windows updates

Microsoft has now offically started blocking pirated copies of Windows from using the Windows Update feature. With the latest Windows update it forces a new installer and new validation tool, once this is installed, when you try to do a Windows update again, you get the message " [ Support ID: 0x8DDD1003 ] To get updates, you must first validate your Windows software. Validation assures that you are using an authentic and fully licensed copy of Windows."

Now I don't know the figures, but I'd assume there are probably more pirated copies of Windows out there then there are legit, specifically in Asian countries like China. So now we have a very unsecure Operating System that constantly needs updates/fixes to prevent millions of computers from being taken over by viruses/worms, that can no longer update. I'm sure those kiddies who run botnets are happy.

Good job Microsoft.

Then, the update from our beloved unknowns:

** UPDATE **
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/07/28/microsoft_genuine_ad.html
Has presented a fix for this.

Also one of our forum users posted a even easier fix:

1. Open IE
2. Click on Tools
3. Click on Internet options
4. Click to the Programs tab
5. Click on the Manage Add-ons button.
6. Select Windows Genuine Advantage
7. Click Disable
8. Done, now you can do Windows updates again.

Originally found here.



Meh, comment.

[Newby]

You know, you don't have this problem if you own a legal copy of the OS.

And if you didn't pay for the software, why the fuck should you receive support and patches for it?

Fuck you, you are on your own if you can't afford to pay them for something they make.

http://www.x86labs.org/forum/index.php/topic,2050.0.html

[Tuberload]

Yes, and now all of the fuckers who, for whatever reason, do not own a legitimate copy of Windows run an even higher chance of getting infected/compromised than they did before. Like screenor said, DDoS platforms will probably grow larger than before, and all of the proud legitimate people could possibly feel some sort of negative impact caused by this.

I do not think this is the best way to go about stopping piracy either.

[Newby]

I think it's a perfectly good idea. People don't want to get infected, so they buy Windows XP. Simple, no?

If they're smart enough to know how to pirate Windows, they're smart enough to keep up-to-date with their anti-virus software and spyware software.

And they can own a firewall, too.

Infact, security patches are essentially useless with those three things and half a brain.

If you can't afford Windows, use Linux.

[Tuberload]

I think it's a perfectly good idea. People don't want to get infected, so they buy Windows XP. Simple, no?

If they're smart enough to know how to pirate Windows, they're smart enough to keep up-to-date with their anti-virus software and spyware software.

And they can own a firewall, too.

Infact, security patches are essentially useless with those three things and half a brain.

If you can't afford Windows, use Linux.

I don't think you're grasping the overall concept of what this could cause.

Why not just render illegitament copies unusable? This would remove the possible DDoS drone from existance and still only allow legitament uses.

Instead they are just adding more future drones to the net.

[Screenor]

You know, you don't have this problem if you own a legal copy of the OS.

And if you didn't pay for the software, why the fuck should you receive support and patches for it?

Fuck you, you are on your own if you can't afford to pay them for something they make.

http://www.x86labs.org/forum/index.php/topic,2050.0.html

Wasn't able to find it, k? I never said anyone with an illegal copy of it should get patches for it, so why the "fuck" do you assume so?

Also, watch your mouth bud, I never said anywhere in that thread I owned an illegal copy, k?

Maybe you didn't read the bottom of the first quote, dolt, but it congratulates Microsoft about it, and this was an article I found on a website, which I gave credit to 2nd line to the bottom of the post.

I think it's a perfectly good idea. People don't want to get infected, so they buy Windows XP. Simple, no?

If they're smart enough to know how to pirate Windows, they're smart enough to keep up-to-date with their anti-virus software and spyware software.

And they can own a firewall, too.

Infact, security patches are essentially useless with those three things and half a brain.

If you can't afford Windows, use Linux.

I don't think you're grasping the overall concept of what this could cause.

Why not just render illegitament copies unusable? This would remove the possible DDoS drone from existance and still only allow legitament uses.

Instead they are just adding more future drones to the net.

Exactly.

I think it's a perfectly good idea. People don't want to get infected, so they buy Windows XP. Simple, no?

If they're smart enough to know how to pirate Windows, they're smart enough to keep up-to-date with their anti-virus software and spyware software.

And they can own a firewall, too.

Infact, security patches are essentially useless with those three things and half a brain.

If you can't afford Windows, use Linux.

It's easy to download and run an application file.

[Newby]

I never said anyone with an illegal copy of it should get patches for it, so why the "fuck" do you assume so?

What were you implying with a topic named Bah! Bill Gates, suck it.?

Also, watch your mouth bud, I never said anywhere in that thread I owned an illegal copy, k?

Did I say you owned an illegal copy? No? I didn't? Oh, gee, mis-interpretation at its finest.

I simply stated fuck you and your intentions if you feel people who own pirated software should receive support for it (which is what is implied in your topic title).

Maybe you didn't read the bottom of the first quote, dolt, but it congratulates Microsoft about it, and this was an article I found on a website, which I gave credit to 2nd line to the bottom of the post.

Maybe you didn't read my post fully, dolt, but did you notice the "Good job Microsoft " was sarcastic?

Why not just render illegitament copies unusable? This would remove the possible DDoS drone from existance and still only allow legitament uses.

What about those that don't know their copies are illegal? What if they suddenly lose lots of valuable data and something bad happens to them?

Lawsuits, my friend. They can sue the living hell out of Microsoft for compromising their data. They may not have known their copy was illegal, and Windows Update telling you "your copy was installed with an invalid cd-key" allows them to contact support to receive a legitimate copy.

It's easy to download and run an application file.

It's even easier to use common judgement when opening it. Virus scanning and spyware scanning take away ~75% of virus/trojan threats. The other ~25% due to a packet file or whatnot should be easy to spot from the file size (I've never seen a 185kb installer, have you?)

(Yes, the numbers are estimates, but it's probably close.)

EDIT -- Tuberload, sure, it adds future drones to the net, but guess what?

If that user doesn't want their ISP to dis-continue their service, and they don't want to be infected, they'll get off of that pirated OS quick as hell if they're smart.

I realize your standpoint on this situation. I used to hold the same one as well.

And as I think of it, it's the perfect way to end piracy.

Legitimate users who are affected by it won't promote piracy of Windows, now will they?

Infact, I know if I start getting attacked I'll tell all my friends to buy XP instead of download it. Will you?

[Screenor]

Quote from: Scr33n0r on Today at 09:46:50 PM
I never said anyone with an illegal copy of it should get patches for it, so why the "fuck" do you assume so?

What were you implying with a topic named Bah! Bill Gates, suck it.?

Simply implying that it's sad that Microsoft would thing canceling updates really would help.


Very hard to beleive people wouldn't know if their OS is pirated, it's just like you and your 40+ gigs of downloaded music.

Quote from: Scr33n0r on Today at 09:46:50 PM
Also, watch your mouth bud, I never said anywhere in that thread I owned an illegal copy, k?

Did I say you owned an illegal copy? No? I didn't? Oh, gee, mis-interpretation at its finest.

I simply stated fuck you and your intentions if you feel people who own pirated software should receive support for it (which is what is implied in your topic title).

Hmm, funny.

Fuck you, you are on your own if you can't afford to pay them for something they make.

As in referring to me or just hoping I'd assume you mean one millions of other people?

Quote from: Scr33n0r on Today at 09:46:50 PM
Maybe you didn't read the bottom of the first quote, dolt, but it congratulates Microsoft about it, and this was an article I found on a website, which I gave credit to 2nd line to the bottom of the post.

Maybe you didn't read my post fully, dolt, but did you notice the "Good job Microsoft Smiley" was sarcastic?

#1: Sorry, I don't hear tones in your voice when you type.

#2:

Now I don't know the figures, but I'd assume there are probably more pirated copies of Windows out there then there are legit, specifically in Asian countries like China. So now we have a very unsecure Operating System that constantly needs updates/fixes to prevent millions of computers from being taken over by viruses/worms, that can no longer update. I'm sure those kiddies who run botnets are happy.

Good job Microsoft. Smiley

Sounds more like a congrat to me, if I didn't read it I wouldn't have quoted it to you, dolt.


And to end this, and to make it clear so I'm not senslesly banned, you began this flame war, I simply posted something about Windows Security.

[Quik]

Why would you assume that all users who do not want to verify a legitmate copy to get Windows Updates actually have gotten theirs illegally? Personally, I avoid doing so simply because it means Microsoft gets reported one more installation on my legal corperation (multi-install) copy of Windows XP, potentially allowing me one fewer install.

[Newby]

Quote from: Scr33n0r on Today at 09:46:50 PM
I never said anyone with an illegal copy of it should get patches for it, so why the "fuck" do you assume so?

What were you implying with a topic named Bah! Bill Gates, suck it.?

Simply implying that it's sad that Microsoft would thing canceling updates really would help.

They aren't cancelling updates. Infact, I bet if I booted into Windows I could still get mine!

Very hard to beleive people wouldn't know if their OS is pirated, it's just like you and your 40+ gigs of downloaded music.

Really? What about 12 year olds who borrow it from their friends, assuming it's perfectly legal?

Fuck you, you are on your own if you can't afford to pay them for something they make.

As in referring to me or just hoping I'd assume you mean one millions of other people?

I am referring to those who think they deserve support for something they didn't pay for.

Now I don't know the figures, but I'd assume there are probably more pirated copies of Windows out there then there are legit, specifically in Asian countries like China. So now we have a very unsecure Operating System that constantly needs updates/fixes to prevent millions of computers from being taken over by viruses/worms, that can no longer update. I'm sure those kiddies who run botnets are happy.

Good job Microsoft.

How can you not see the tone of sarcasm in that writing? Do those sound like words of praise for Microsoft?

[trust]

Hi.

I agree with Newby.

That is all.

[iago]

Newby -- would you pay $250 out of your own copy of Windows?  Or do you only have a legal copy because your parents bought it for you?  $250 is a lot of money for a normal person. 

[Quik]

Newby -- would you pay $250 out of your own copy of Windows? Or do you only have a legal copy because your parents bought it for you? $250 is a lot of money for a normal person.

I'm assuming his parents didn't buy it. Remember all of the Micro$oft freebies he kept bragging about?

Some people argue that, like music pirates, software pirates obtain what they want illegally to make a statement about the price. Others think they are cheap, or do not actually have the money to spend. Whatever the case may be, if the risk of getting caught is worth running to have the software, and possibly not have it to it's full extent (if you're smart, you can get around this, as has been demonstrated), then you're better off pirating the program.

Again, I am against the Genuine Advantage, but not because I use pirated versions of the disc.

[Sidoh]

Newby -- would you pay $250 out of your own copy of Windows?  Or do you only have a legal copy because your parents bought it for you?  $250 is a lot of money for a normal person. 

I was about to say the same thing. Newby, I think you should stop bashing on people who pirate software. It's really hypocritical of you.

By the way, Screenor. Threads directly related to this one have already been posted. We know.

[iago]

Newby, I think you should stop bashing on people who pirate software. It's really hypocritical of you.

"hypocritical" is a very good word.  Especially when you get that defensive about something that you do a lot of, it does reflect badly on you :-P