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Offline Sidoh

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Forked Path
« on: August 09, 2005, 02:23:59 am »
You are traveling by sea in your own boat, when suddenly a storm strikes! A crate of something heavy falls on top of your head and you are knocked out for several hours.

When you awake, you find yourself on a uninhabited island. As you walk, you see a sign ahead of you. Under the sign is an old, frail man. You also notice that the road splits into two near identical paths.

When you draw closer to it, you see the text:

One path leads to great riches and fame, the other leads to a lifetime of perilous struggle. The man under this sign knows which path leads where. He will either always lie or always tell the truth. You will never know which. You may ask him one question and one question only.

What one question can you ask the old man so you have a sure answer of which path is the correct one?

Those of you that already know the answer because I've told you or you've heard it in the past... don't comment. :)

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Re: Forked Path
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2005, 02:26:07 am »
hm, loophole.. loophole.. i got nothin
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: Forked Path
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2005, 02:26:52 am »
This is another really good riddle.

The answer involves symbolic logic.

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Re: Forked Path
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2005, 05:31:58 am »
The answer on your riddles module page defies the riddle itself (you can ask 1 and only 1 question), because it says to ask 2 questions.  gg~~

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Re: Forked Path
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2005, 09:08:50 am »
The answer on your riddles module page defies the riddle itself (you can ask 1 and only 1 question), because it says to ask 2 questions.  gg~~

That argument was already made, and, as Sidoh explains, you're wrong. 

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Re: Forked Path
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2005, 09:52:04 am »
Well someone moved the thread with that explanation, because I can't find it!  PLEASE TELL ME WHY!

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Re: Forked Path
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2005, 10:26:55 am »
It's at the bottom of this forum.

By the way, I think this would be a hint: if you ask somebody "Are you telling the truth?" they'll always answer "yes". 

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Re: Forked Path
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2005, 10:42:00 am »
Jesus rabbit, learn to read. Not only did I already post this in the "Riddles" thread TWICE, but it clearly states in the answer:

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If you posed the question in a similar manner:

Is this the correct path?

If it is NOT the correct path you indicate and he always lies, the man will respond with "Yes, it is." If he always tells the truth, he will respond with "No, it is not." but you can never be sure if he's lying or not.

It is showing why symbolic logic is required to answer it correctly.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2005, 12:06:33 pm by Sidoh »

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Re: Forked Path
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2005, 10:46:12 am »
Would the question be:
"Will you show me the path that leads to riches?"
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Re: Forked Path
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2005, 10:47:45 am »
No. He ALWAYS lies or ALWAYS tells the truth (you can't tell which), regardless of the question posed.

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Re: Forked Path
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2005, 03:26:17 pm »
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Re: Forked Path
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2005, 08:10:53 pm »
Ask him which one he doesn't come from and go to that.  He must have come from the bad place...

If he lies he will bring you to the rich place, if he tells the truth, he will bring you to the rich place.
And like a fool I believed myself, and thought I was somebody else...

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Re: Forked Path
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2005, 11:10:37 pm »
A lie and a truth end up with different paths given that question.

Wrong. :)

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Re: Forked Path
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2005, 11:26:21 pm »
If you can only ask one question, why are you trying to find out if he's going to lie or tell the truth? If you ask your question and DO find out if he lies or not, you're still fucked because you can't ask the important question regaurding the paths.
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Re: Forked Path
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2005, 11:38:48 pm »
It'd be easier if there was one guy for both paths.

If you asked the question Blaze posted, it wouldn't matter. He obviously didn't go down either path since he's at the beginning! Unless he went down backwards.