Joe.. is a young and aspiring programmer. See, as moronic as Joe acts sometimes, I see him becoming someone great. I don't know anyone else (other than newby, back in the day) that will program as much random shit as Joe will. I like Joe, 90% of the time, and I'd like to see Joe back in the clan, when he matures up a little. Joe: I will approve you, over time. You and me both know x86 isn't going anywhere, so it's not like if you're out for maybe a month, or a little longer, that it will make a serious difference. We've been here since Sept. 04, we'll be here for years to come.