Some words on Fortes, anyone?

[GameSnake]

My school uses Fortres Grand as security for thier network. Any hax or info you have or know about this program would be appreciated thanks.

[iago]

Well, I'm going to have to give my olde speech. 

Screwing around with school computers is a very dumb idea.  You can get expelled, ruin your education, ruin your life, and for what? Nothing.  School isn't a game, and messing with school computers isn't a game.  It's just a plain dumb thing to do. 

For example, look at Cuphead.  He ended up spending time in jail, and got expelled from school. 

[RoMi]

But didn't cuphead host an FTP server from the public library?

[GameSnake]

Does anyone actually know anything usefull about Fortres? I can get $ for changing jocks/people's grades like I have almost every year, except this one because I know almost nothing about this program. I don't want to have to illegally download it and study it myself! >.<

[Sidoh]

And you'll get all that money plus more (reputation, records and more money) taken away from you when you get caught.

[iago]

But didn't cuphead host an FTP server from the public library?

No, he didn't.  He installed software on a computer that he wasn't supposed to. 

As I said before, it's a very dumb thing to do.  I'm definitely not going to help. 

[Towelie]

I completly agree with iago, your school career is nothing you want to risk for a few bucks, that is unless your school career is already fucked, you have no intentions of going to college, and your idea of a place to work is Mc Donalds.

[GameSnake]

My high school network administrator put this program on every computer there. It does it's job well--keeping people who know just enough about a computer to screw it up from doing just that. But it also keeps people who know what they are doing (like myself) from fixing the computer.

People (like myself) who do not have administrator rights or the password for the program are slowed down by this.

I've done some initial research and I have found that I can disable the program by using a boot disk and using a DOS editor on autoexec.bat and config.sys.

[deadly7]

But didn't cuphead host an FTP server from the public library?

No, he didn't. He installed software on a computer that he wasn't supposed to.

As I said before, it's a very dumb thing to do. I'm definitely not going to help.

I've installed software on school computers before, what did Cuphead install that got him expelled?

[Sidoh]

My high school network administrator put this program on every computer there. It does it's job well--keeping people who know just enough about a computer to screw it up from doing just that. But it also keeps people who know what they are doing (like myself) from fixing the computer.

People (like myself) who do not have administrator rights or the password for the program are slowed down by this.

I've done some initial research and I have found that I can disable the program by using a boot disk and using a DOS editor on autoexec.bat and config.sys.

Sometimes, regardless of what you may think, your methods of fixing a computer may cause conflicts in other areas of the network, which is why network administrators don't let people who aren't educated in their entire--or at least a good portion of--layout for their computer network.

I could name countless examples of people who are more computer literate than the average user at my highschool where they found a problem, fixed it in the way the saw best fit, and ended up causing us more work because of it.  While some 'quick-fixes' are rather helpful (such as removing adware when it's detected), there are other, more serious issues that will result in futher problems when they're 'fixed' in the wrong way.

I'm not saying you don't know what to do at all, it's just hard to know what to do when you don't have a global picture of the problem, or the results that occur from your solution to the problem.

[iago]

My high school network administrator put this program on every computer there. It does it's job well--keeping people who know just enough about a computer to screw it up from doing just that. But it also keeps people who know what they are doing (like myself) from fixing the computer.

People (like myself) who do not have administrator rights or the password for the program are slowed down by this.

I've done some initial research and I have found that I can disable the program by using a boot disk and using a DOS editor on autoexec.bat and config.sys.

Sometimes, regardless of what you may think, your methods of fixing a computer may cause conflicts in other areas of the network, which is why network administrators don't let people who aren't educated in their entire--or at least a good portion of--layout for their computer network.

I could name countless examples of people who are more computer literate than the average user at my highschool where they found a problem, fixed it in the way the saw best fit, and ended up causing us more work because of it.  While some 'quick-fixes' are rather helpful (such as removing adware when it's detected), there are other, more serious issues that will result in futher problems when they're 'fixed' in the wrong way.

I'm not saying you don't know what to do at all, it's just hard to know what to do when you don't have a global picture of the problem, or the results that occur from your solution to the problem.

We kind of had the opposite problem at work.  My department was Security, and the networking was done by EDS[/eds] (an oursourcer).  EDS would frequently screw things up (forgetting to disable a server, leaving dhcp running on a router, misconfiguring a proxy or router, moving a print server without updating clients, and too many other things to count).  My department would usually have to walk them through how to fix the problem, or fix it ourselves if we had acces. 

[Sidoh]

Well, they're professionals, they're SUPPOSED to know how to do things. 

[iago]

Because of pay-cuts and stuff, all their good people/architects left, leaving them with drooling idiots

[Sidoh]

Because of pay-cuts and stuff, all their good people/architects left, leaving them with drooling idiots

Haha, that sucks.

[trust]

I used "net send" to send "hi" across the entire school systems network (I thought it was just local - in the classroom) after the superintendent or his secretary or something called, I got in a little bit of trouble. I apologized and got a warning though.

This was freshmen year.