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Networks:

--- Quote from: iago on October 29, 2005, 12:40:12 pm ---Of course you still have a chance. 

But that brings up the question: why did you leave?  And what has changed?


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I believe that post is in the members forum. What has changed? Evidentally nothing (according to you guys =\) except Joe is gone.

iago:
I'm not entirely sure why you DID leave, even after reading posts regarding it.  The only thing I'm aware of is problems we had regarding Teh User (which has since been resolved, and hasn't been brought up again).  If you don't like the fact that the clan has arguments on important issues, then find yourself a clan that has a strict structure.  The way x86 is designed, the leaders don't have a lot of power, and all members are equal to each other, and nearly equal to the leaders.  There is only one way to resolve problems, and it's exactly how we do it.  And so far, it's worked. 

Networks:
I think it had much to do with: Way to many arguments, Nothing to really participate in (I found myself just loading a tag and that's it) which contributed to no benefits, and lots of stupidity in the channel primarily influenced by Trust (oh well), plus you were kind of dead, and then the whole TehUser thing. All of these were entirely different things from the x86 I joined before when there were 8-10 members.

Newby:

--- Quote from: Networks on October 30, 2005, 10:00:01 am ---Way to many arguments

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--- Quote from: iago on October 30, 2005, 01:29:18 am ---If you don't like the fact that the clan has arguments on important issues, then find yourself a clan that has a strict structure.

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--- Quote from: Networks on October 30, 2005, 10:00:01 am ---Nothing to really participate in (I found myself just loading a tag and that's it) which contributed to no benefits

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Well, there are the forums, and you're always welcome to try and get members to do something.

The idea is that we're more of a clan based on friendship. Sure, finding common interests can be difficult, but if you are bored, find something to do. See if you can get some clan members together to game. It isn't hard.

Benefits? Well, you get to throw your opinion in to how the clan is run or what you feel needs change, which is a benefit in itself.


--- Quote from: Networks on October 30, 2005, 10:00:01 am ---lots of stupidity in the channel primarily influenced by Trust (oh well)

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All you had to do was post and say, "I don't like Trust being in the channel. Can we leave him on autoban?"

Simple as that. No more trust-being-immature problem for you to put up with.

It is also called squelch, if a few members want him in the channel for whatever reason they have. Hell, if your bot has decent filters, filter his name.


--- Quote from: Networks on October 30, 2005, 10:00:01 am ---plus you were kind of dead

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So, you joined x86 because of iago and iago alone? Or are you saying you felt he was the only one who could deal with the problems stated above?

I'm not sure I want you in the clan at that point if you feel either one. If it's the former, there are 20 or so other members who would love to talk with you; if it's the latter, well...


--- Quote from: iago on October 30, 2005, 01:29:18 am ---The way x86 is designed, the leaders don't have a lot of power, and all members are equal to each other, and nearly equal to the leaders. There is only one way to resolve problems, and it's exactly how we do it. And so far, it's worked.

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You (or any other member, for that matter) could have addressed problems, and attempted to solve them, instead of leaving.


--- Quote from: Networks on October 30, 2005, 10:00:01 am ---and then the whole TehUser thing.

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* Newby shakes his head.
You and zorm... *mumbles*

Well, that problem solved itself.

I still think it is immature that you felt the need to tell TehUser what we were saying about him. I see the reasoning behind it, but there are other morals you are breaking by telling him than there are by staying silent. (Trust versus friendship... hmm... you picked friendship!)

Although I am thankful you didn't tell TehUser specifics, although you lead to specifics being told.


--- Quote from: Networks on October 30, 2005, 10:00:01 am ---All of these were entirely different things from the x86 I joined before when there were 8-10 members.

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Well, that's what happens when time passes by. Shit changes.

Although I really can't say there's been much more to do as a clan than there was when the clan was started...

Networks:

--- Quote ---Although I really can't say there's been much more to do as a clan than there was when the clan was started...

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That's kind of a sad part about x86.

I didn't join x86 for iago but him and WiReS were great reasons. I didn't really know the rest except by mere aquaintence. Hell I still don't know you Newby. If I were to have joined because of iago I would've done so in the beginning.

The Trust thing, I didn't want to ban a person everyone seemed to like a little bit. I figured it would cause more problems.

Also, I did throw my opinion in quite a bit nothing seemed to change. However it seems more calm now. Really now I am just trying to get a feel how everyone does feel about me. (doesn't seem like it's in my favor though)

Also I am happy with me leaving because I wouldn't have ever known iago knew the extended lie of what happened in the private forums and he probably would've still been really indifferent towards me.

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