Joe, do you really think posting repeatedly is going to get you your leader's approvals? That's just the first step on getting in anyways, atfer that you'll have to worry about the members votes, so why don't you stop asking to join untill you and all of us feels like it's ready for you to join, just give it some time and I'm sure you will get in and actually get to stay in it, otherwise the same thing is going to happen like the first time.