XBox 360 + eBay + morons = $$$

[Newby]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62054&item=8236133757

Read the fine print.

[Furious]

Wow...how FUCKING STUPID can you get?

[Sidoh]

Haha, that's not even fine print!

Didn't something similar keep happening when the PSP was released?  It seems I remember someone showing me a bunch of eBay auctions for PSP boxes going for ~$300.

Morons are fun!

[Towelie]

Rofl! This auction is for a picture! AND THEY ARE PAYING OVER 1000 DOLLARS ROFL

[Sidoh]

Rofl! This auction is for a picture! AND THEY ARE PAYING OVER 1000 DOLLARS ROFL

Haha, yeah.  Idiots are in such abundance.

[GameSnake]

WOW 1000 bucks for pictures.. god damn.. I gotta get into this scam!

[zorm]

You guys may have missed it but the winner of the bid was onto the scam. Note the negative feedback he left the seller and the sellers return negative feedback.

[Furious]

eBay won't let it happen anyways.

[trust]

eBay won't let it happen anyways.

It isn't illegal. I'm attempting the same thing now and as of now, they haven't removed it.

[Quik]

eBay won't let it happen anyways.

It isn't illegal. I'm attempting the same thing now and as of now, they haven't removed it.

Not illegal, but if they notice, they will remove your auction and may perhaps ban your account.

[Sidoh]

Not illegal, but if they notice, they will remove your auction and may perhaps ban your account.

Why?  It's a perfectly legitimate auction.

[iago]

Not illegal, but if they notice, they will remove your auction and may perhaps ban your account.

Why?  It's a perfectly legitimate auction.

Although it's legitamate, it's still a dirty trick, obviously. 

[trust]

lol @ stuff

[Armin]

That's rediculous Trust. I've just lost a lot of respect for you.

[trust]

Oh well. I've had a lot of people contact me and ask if it was for an actual 360. I was clear and honest with them, and I think I was incredibly clear in the description as well.

[Armin]

Obviously it's not clear to them, because they wouldn't be paying $100+ for it. I've also tried contacting the user who's winning to inform them that it's not really an Xbox, but I need feedback on my account to do so. Anyone else have any ideas?

[trust]

I was contacted by bidders and told them, by the way. What's the big deal?

[Armin]

Getting somebodies hopes up that they're buying an Xbox, them paying $100+ for it, then getting let down all because you're greedy.

[trust]

Yeah, I might call this off. The guy who's winning hasn't been active since 1999, and he has a negative feedback on there.

[Warrior]

That's rediculous Trust. I've just lost a lot of respect for you.

I'd rather have a grand then the respect of someone online, no?

[Armin]

The point I was trying to get across in that statement is that he was being immature by doing this.

[trust]

(13:02:55) Warrior R 1337: It's hustlin

[rabbit]

It's not tricky or sneaky.  He clearly says "This auction is for a picture."

eBay can't do shit if he's not lying :\

[Armin]

Ebay can do whatever the hell they want to do.

[GameSnake]

This scam has been used on Ebay since the start, when will people learn?

[trust]

This scam has been used on Ebay since the start, when will people learn?

Don't know. Mine sold for $610, with 23 bids. That bid count is after I cancelled all the bids for some other guy, who had like 10 bids.

[Blaze]

This scam has been used on Ebay since the start, when will people learn?

Don't know. Mine sold for $610, with 23 bids. That bid count is after I cancelled all the bids for some other guy, who had like 10 bids.

Link to auction?

[trust]

IM me if you want it. I had posted it but then I removed the link after Metal got mad at me for being a bad human.

If the guy actually pays (doubt he will) I'll probably refund the money anyway. I hate having a concious.

[Hitmen]

www.smashmyxbox.com

awesomeness 

[Blaze]

www.smashmyipod.com is my favorite.

[trust]

Same people.

[iago]

Btw, the account for the original guy in this thread was closed.  I guess eBay DOES care. 

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=rocrayke&iid=8236133757&frm=284

No longer a registered user
Member since: Sep-11-04
Location: United States

[trust]

FUCK

[GameSnake]

Like I said this has been a common scam since the start, and Ebay watches every auction going and trys to stop scams like that.

[trust]

I'm assuming the buyer complained to eBayer, they obviously didn't catch it when it was actually an active auction. I headed the warning, and fessed up.

Hi. You were the winning bidder in my auction. I want to inform you that the auction was for GRAPHICS of an XBox 360 and not the actual unit. Although my description clearly states that, many people obviously don't read it.

I created this auction wondernig if people would actually bid on PICTURES. Looks like they did, over 20 times. I just wanted to inform you and hopefully you'll read descriptions in the future - this could have been costly for you. (Of course, if you meant to bid $610 for some pictures, by all means, I'll accept the money!) But seriously, I just wanted to let you know so that you don't send the money.

I'll still leave you postitive feedback and whatnot if you want. Just be careful, there's going to be a lot of auctions where people won't be as honest as me and will actually try to take your money.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Man, that sucks. I was gonna take that $610 and buy an XBox 360 too!

Oh well.

[GameSnake]

Uhh.. I woulda gone thru with it. Infact I might just try myself.

[trust]

Uhh.. I woulda gone thru with it. Infact I might just try myself.

Not worth it. eBay owns Paypal so they'd probably refund the money or close my Paypal account if I refused to refund it.

Whatever.

[Blaze]

Uhh.. I woulda gone thru with it. Infact I might just try myself.

Not worth it. eBay owns Paypal so they'd probably refund the money or close my Paypal account if I refused to refund it.

Whatever.

They really can't do anything if you've used the money though, and if your country doesn't follow american laws....

[iago]

Uhh.. I woulda gone thru with it. Infact I might just try myself.

Not worth it. eBay owns Paypal so they'd probably refund the money or close my Paypal account if I refused to refund it.

Whatever.

Yeah, I was going to mention that.  I've been told that PayPal will close your account at the drop of a hat (Source: Grok), so you have to be careful

[Quik]

Uhh.. I woulda gone thru with it. Infact I might just try myself.

Not worth it. eBay owns Paypal so they'd probably refund the money or close my Paypal account if I refused to refund it.

Whatever.

Yeah, I was going to mention that. I've been told that PayPal will close your account at the drop of a hat (Source: Grok), so you have to be careful

My friend's original PayPal account was closed for no reason at all, proving that they don't really need much of a motive to take your money and run.

[Sidoh]

My boss' eBay and PayPal accounts were suspended for no apparent reason too.  eBay said they were being used for "suspicious" activity, my boss had no idea what they were talking about.

[trust]

Still no word from the buyer and my account still seems to work. Hmm.

[iago]

My boss' eBay and PayPal accounts were suspended for no apparent reason too.  eBay said they were being used for "suspicious" activity, my boss had no idea what they were talking about.

Yeah, exactly.  So I wouldn't do anything that is risky like that

And Trust -- the main problem with what you did is that you may have robbed your buyer of getting the xbox he wanted.  Sure, you didn't actually take his money, but you wasted his time

[Armin]

And Trust -- the main problem with what you did is that you may have robbed your buyer of getting the xbox he wanted.  Sure, you didn't actually take his money, but you wasted his time

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[Hitmen]

Sure, you didn't actually take his money, but you wasted his time

He probably would have wasted it anyway

[trust]

To quote buyer: "THANK YOU VERY MUCH"

[iago]

Sure, you didn't actually take his money, but you wasted his time

He probably would have wasted it anyway

Haha, so true.  I want my 5 minutes back!

[trust]

rofl. He left me positive feedback too.

VERY GOOD SELLER__HONEST__FAST SHIPPING

I laugh.

[iago]

haha @ "fast shipping"

[Sidoh]

ROFL!!

[TheSickEmpire]

My boss' eBay and PayPal accounts were suspended for no apparent reason too.  eBay said they were being used for "suspicious" activity, my boss had no idea what they were talking about.

Yeah, exactly.  So I wouldn't do anything that is risky like that

And Trust -- the main problem with what you did is that you may have robbed your buyer of getting the xbox he wanted.  Sure, you didn't actually take his money, but you wasted his time

If someone is dumb enough to bid $600 on an item that he hasen't read the description on, one has to wonder, does he actually deserve the money in the first place? If one is willing to piss away wealth so easily then they don't deserve it, nor will they have it for very long.

These are the same people that give their credit card number to people over the phone, then wonder why they're being fucked in the ass by those same people.

Fuck em'.

[trust]

My mom's given her credit card number over the phone, one specific example was when she was paying for sailing camp for me over the summer. It's not a big deal with a legit business.

Yes, iago, "FAST SHIPPING" was the funny part.

[TheSickEmpire]

My mom's given her credit card number over the phone, one specific example was when she was paying for sailing camp for me over the summer. It's not a big deal with a legit business.

I'm talking about the people who give it to people who tell you you're getting a free vacation, but need your credit card, to 'verify who you are'/steal your money.

[iago]

My boss' eBay and PayPal accounts were suspended for no apparent reason too.  eBay said they were being used for "suspicious" activity, my boss had no idea what they were talking about.

Yeah, exactly.  So I wouldn't do anything that is risky like that

And Trust -- the main problem with what you did is that you may have robbed your buyer of getting the xbox he wanted.  Sure, you didn't actually take his money, but you wasted his time

If someone is dumb enough to bid $600 on an item that he hasen't read the description on, one has to wonder, does he actually deserve the money in the first place? If one is willing to piss away wealth so easily then they don't deserve it, nor will they have it for very long.

These are the same people that give their credit card number to people over the phone, then wonder why they're being fucked in the ass by those same people.

Fuck em'.

If that had happened to you, or your family, you would probably have a different attitude. 

[Armin]

My boss' eBay and PayPal accounts were suspended for no apparent reason too.  eBay said they were being used for "suspicious" activity, my boss had no idea what they were talking about.

Yeah, exactly.  So I wouldn't do anything that is risky like that

And Trust -- the main problem with what you did is that you may have robbed your buyer of getting the xbox he wanted.  Sure, you didn't actually take his money, but you wasted his time

If someone is dumb enough to bid $600 on an item that he hasen't read the description on, one has to wonder, does he actually deserve the money in the first place? If one is willing to piss away wealth so easily then they don't deserve it, nor will they have it for very long.

These are the same people that give their credit card number to people over the phone, then wonder why they're being fucked in the ass by those same people.

Fuck em'.

They might not deserve the money for not appreciating it, but you sure as hell don't deserve it for not working for your money and stealing it.

[trust]

Haha. For some reason the guy that bought my items account was suspended "indefinitely."
Wtf?

[TheSickEmpire]

If that had happened to you, or your family, you would probably have a different attitude. 

Two things, it wouldn't happen to me, at least not in this situation. And, if it happened to someone I respected/cared about I'd tell them how not to let it happen again. But, I'd still hold the same opinion on the situation.

They might not deserve the money for not appreciating it, but you sure as hell don't deserve it for not working for your money and stealing it.

Stealing? I think you have the legal definition of stealing wrong.

The standard legal definition of stealing, theft, or in this case, larceny is as follows:

Theft/larceny is typically defined as the taking of almost anything of value without the consent of the owner, with the intent to permanently deprive him or her of the value of the property taken.

http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/a-z/theft_larceny.html

Now, in this case, we're dealing with money. I have full consent of the owner, and no intent to deprive him/her of what they've bought. So, it's not 'stealing' in any way shape or form.

[Armin]

They might not deserve the money for not appreciating it, but you sure as hell don't deserve it for not working for your money and stealing it.

Stealing? I think you have the legal definition of stealing wrong.

The standard legal definition of stealing, theft, or in this case, larceny is as follows:

Theft/larceny is typically defined as the taking of almost anything of value without the consent of the owner, with the intent to permanently deprive him or her of the value of the property taken.

http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/a-z/theft_larceny.html

Now, in this case, we're dealing with money. I have full consent of the owner, and no intent to deprive him/her of what they've bought. So, it's not 'stealing' in any way shape or form.

I'm obviously not talking about the standard legal definition then, am I?

[TheSickEmpire]

They might not deserve the money for not appreciating it, but you sure as hell don't deserve it for not working for your money and stealing it.

Stealing? I think you have the legal definition of stealing wrong.

The standard legal definition of stealing, theft, or in this case, larceny is as follows:

Theft/larceny is typically defined as the taking of almost anything of value without the consent of the owner, with the intent to permanently deprive him or her of the value of the property taken.

http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/a-z/theft_larceny.html

Now, in this case, we're dealing with money. I have full consent of the owner, and no intent to deprive him/her of what they've bought. So, it's not 'stealing' in any way shape or form.

I'm obviously not talking about the standard legal definition then, am I?

I assume then, that you pulld it directly out of your ass.

[Armin]

They might not deserve the money for not appreciating it, but you sure as hell don't deserve it for not working for your money and stealing it.

Stealing? I think you have the legal definition of stealing wrong.

The standard legal definition of stealing, theft, or in this case, larceny is as follows:

Theft/larceny is typically defined as the taking of almost anything of value without the consent of the owner, with the intent to permanently deprive him or her of the value of the property taken.

http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/a-z/theft_larceny.html

Now, in this case, we're dealing with money. I have full consent of the owner, and no intent to deprive him/her of what they've bought. So, it's not 'stealing' in any way shape or form.

I'm obviously not talking about the standard legal definition then, am I?

I assume then, that you pulld it directly out of your ass.

Wow, you're not that deep, are you? Just because you didn't legally steal something, doesn't mean you didn't still steal it in that same sense.

[Warrior]

So what, the buyer should learn to read. If it was me I would have spent his damn money already. Nothing wrong with it, I mean I AM auctioning a legal PHOTO and I DO start the bid low, if it goes high it isn't my fault.

[TheSickEmpire]

Wow, you're not that deep, are you? Just because you didn't legally steal something, doesn't mean you didn't still steal it in that same sense.

Ooohhh, insults. I'm getting all hot.

Theft (also known as stealing) is, in general, the wrongful taking of someone else's property without that person's willful consent. In law, it is usually the broadest term for a crime against property. It is a general term that encompasses offences such as burglary, embezzlement, larceny, looting, robbery, trespassing, shoplifting, intrusion, fraud (theft by deception), and sometimes criminal conversion. Legally, theft is generally considered to be synonymous with larceny.

So, in your world, stealing has a diffrent meaning? Well, I'd like to inform you that we don't live in your world. We live in that thing called 'reality' and in reality the definition stated above holds true.

Like Warrior said, people are selling pictures. Legally. People are also selling them for a low price, which disproves any intent you had to scam them. How is it stealing when someone bids $600 on said pictures? That's right, it's not

Italics catchs your eye. ITALICS.

[Armin]

Wow, you're not that deep, are you? Just because you didn't legally steal something, doesn't mean you didn't still steal it in that same sense.

Ooohhh, insults. I'm getting all hot.

How is that an insult?

Theft (also known as stealing) is, in general, the wrongful taking of someone else's property without that person's willful consent. In law, it is usually the broadest term for a crime against property. It is a general term that encompasses offences such as burglary, embezzlement, larceny, looting, robbery, trespassing, shoplifting, intrusion, fraud (theft by deception), and sometimes criminal conversion. Legally, theft is generally considered to be synonymous with larceny.

So, in your world, stealing has a diffrent meaning? Well, I'd like to inform you that we don't live in your world. We live in that thing called 'reality' and in reality the definition stated above holds true.

Like Warrior said, people are selling pictures. Legally. People are also selling them for a low price, which disproves any intent you had to scam them. How is it stealing when someone bids $600 on said pictures? That's right, it's not

Italics catchs your eye. ITALICS.

Theft (also known as stealing) is, in general, the wrongful taking of someone else's property

That's what I meant by it being stealing in the same sense, but for now on, I'll just say "wrongfully taking their money" just becuase you refused to think about what I meant. You're wrongfully taking their money, and you don't deserve it as well. Happy?

[TheSickEmpire]

That's what I meant by it being stealing in the same sense, but for now on, I'll just say "wrongfully taking their money" just becuase you refused to think about what I meant. You're wrongfully taking their money, and you don't deserve it as well. Happy?

There's no two 'senses' of stealing, also your 'new' definition is still wrong.

Theft (also known as stealing) is, in general, the wrongful taking of someone else's property

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[Armin]

That's what I meant by it being stealing in the same sense, but for now on, I'll just say "wrongfully taking their money" just becuase you refused to think about what I meant. You're wrongfully taking their money, and you don't deserve it as well. Happy?

There's no two 'senses' of stealing

...Wow, are you kidding me? I made a connection between what was going on here and the definition of stealing, and what I meant by "in the same sense" is that something similar here is going on. You're wrongfully taking something.

also your 'new' definition is still wrong.

Theft (also known as stealing) is, in general, the wrongful taking of someone else's property

k

...I never said that was my definition, learn how to read. I've tried to explain many many times, but you're just playing dumb so just drop it. If you actually read properly you would notice that this is what I was trying to say: You're wrongfully taking their money, and you don't deserve it as well. Happy?

Also, don't come back saying that it's not in the same 'sense' again, I honestly don't care about that and never did. The point I was trying to make is in bold and above me, and everyone else but you understood it.

[Sidoh]

Alright, this is starting to get out of hand.  Take it elsewhere, please.

[ZeroX]

That's what I meant by it being stealing in the same sense, but for now on, I'll just say "wrongfully taking their money" just becuase you refused to think about what I meant. You're wrongfully taking their money, and you don't deserve it as well. Happy?

There's no two 'senses' of stealing

...Wow, are you kidding me? I made a connection between what was going on here and the definition of stealing, and what I meant by "in the same sense" is that something similar here is going on. You're wrongfully taking something.

also your 'new' definition is still wrong.

Theft (also known as stealing) is, in general, the wrongful taking of someone else's property

k

...I never said that was my definition, learn how to read. I've tried to explain many many times, but you're just playing dumb so just drop it. If you actually read properly you would notice that this is what I was trying to say: You're wrongfully taking their money, and you don't deserve it as well. Happy?

Also, don't come back saying that it's not in the same 'sense' again, I honestly don't care about that and never did. The point I was trying to make is in bold and above me, and everyone else but you understood it.

Where did you get that definition from bro?

[Warrior]

If it isn't theft then it isn't theft. Theres nothing dishonorable about selling stuff on ebay.

[Armin]

That's what I meant by it being stealing in the same sense, but for now on, I'll just say "wrongfully taking their money" just becuase you refused to think about what I meant. You're wrongfully taking their money, and you don't deserve it as well. Happy?

There's no two 'senses' of stealing

...Wow, are you kidding me? I made a connection between what was going on here and the definition of stealing, and what I meant by "in the same sense" is that something similar here is going on. You're wrongfully taking something.

also your 'new' definition is still wrong.

Theft (also known as stealing) is, in general, the wrongful taking of someone else's property

k

...I never said that was my definition, learn how to read. I've tried to explain many many times, but you're just playing dumb so just drop it. If you actually read properly you would notice that this is what I was trying to say: You're wrongfully taking their money, and you don't deserve it as well. Happy?

Also, don't come back saying that it's not in the same 'sense' again, I honestly don't care about that and never did. The point I was trying to make is in bold and above me, and everyone else but you understood it.

Where did you get that definition from bro?

Wow. I'm done.