Don't buy the xbox 360 yet!

[deadly7]

http://news.com.com/2061-11199_3-5969879.html?part=rss&tag=5969879&subj=news
LOL

[iago]

Microsoft releasing software that crashes?  Nah...

[Joe]

I don't find this funny, Its downright sad, in my opinion.

As biased as this opinion is, I could have told you that it would have many, many problems. Did you expect better? Its made by Microsoft?

EDIT -
iago posted his reply while I was typing this. I <3 you iago! =)

[Sidoh]

Microsoft releasing software that crashes?  Nah...

ROFL!!!

[deadly7]

I don't find this funny, Its downright sad, in my opinion.

As biased as this opinion is, I could have told you that it would have many, many problems. Did you expect better? Its made by Microsoft?

EDIT -
iago posted his reply while I was typing this. I <3 you iago! =)

Joe, what operating system do you have installed on your computer?
Microsoft windows. If you don't like their products, don't use them and don't bitch about them. Look'it iago! He's the best example.

[Sidoh]

Joe, what operating system do you have installed on your computer?
Microsoft windows. If you don't like their products, don't use them and don't bitch about them. Look'it iago! He's the best example.

Since everything in this world is imperfect to some degree (and humans desire perfection, and despise imperfection), I think that bitching about anything is invalid according to your claim.  I bitch about Windows, I use it.  I bitch about the US government, a huge part of my life is controlled by it.  I bitch about WoW, it's my favorite past time.

Basically, don't tell him to not bitch about Windows just because he uses it.  He has his reasons for using it and certainly has enough reason to bitch about it.

[Armin]

Microsoft releasing software that crashes?  Nah...

It's the harddrive that causes the 360 to overheat, nothing software related. At least this isn't that hard of a fix for them, all they need to do is find a better way for cooling harddrives, then send new ones all out. They've already made probably ~$1,500,000,000 in sales so far (3,000,000 consoles x $500 each). They probably won't lose much money off of this, probably ~$1,000,000 as a guess.

[Hitmen]

Microsoft releasing software that crashes?  Nah...

It's the harddrive that causes the 360 to overheat, nothing software related. At least this isn't that hard of a fix for them, all they need to do is find a better way for cooling harddrives, then send new ones all out. They've already made probably ~$1,500,000,000 in sales so far (3,000,000 consoles x $500 each). They probably won't lose much money off of this, probably ~$1,000,000 as a guess.

They lose money on every console they sell. Any fix needed is going to drag them further into the red.

[trust]

Yep. I think they lose around $176 per console, including labor. They're making their money off of games/accessories.

And I hate people who dislike Microsoft because it's the "cool" thing to do but really have no basis for their claims. Joe.

[Screenor]

I've been trying to convince my family to NOT buy the Xbox 360 for Christmas, and yet no one listens to me, this article will help a lot, thanks for the find.

Also: I use Microsoft souly because a big part of my life is PC gaming, and there's no way in hell I want to play on a Mac or Linux based computer, much less learn how to use either. I dislike how buggy their software is, and how they try and run from the problem, instead of fixing it (i.e. they're not going to support XP anymore soon, and it really hasn't even been out that long).

[deadly7]

Joe, what operating system do you have installed on your computer?
Microsoft windows. If you don't like their products, don't use them and don't bitch about them. Look'it iago! He's the best example.

Since everything in this world is imperfect to some degree (and humans desire perfection, and despise imperfection), I think that bitching about anything is invalid according to your claim. I bitch about Windows, I use it. I bitch about the US government, a huge part of my life is controlled by it. I bitch about WoW, it's my favorite past time.

Basically, don't tell him to not bitch about Windows just because he uses it. He has his reasons for using it and certainly has enough reason to bitch about it.

You probably have reasons. Joe is just jumping on the bandwagon, did you actually READ his post?
"Did you expect any better? Its made by Microsoft?"
I find him to be a big hypocrite because he's bashing a company that he's loyal to. [And don't even deny it joe, you fucking love windows]


Edit: Screenor
Thank Google's Personalized Home, ehehehehe. I don't check the websites anymore, just Personalized!

[Hitmen]

Yep. I think they lose around $176 per console, including labor. They're making their money off of games/accessories.

And I hate people who dislike Microsoft because it's the "cool" thing to do but really have no basis for their claims. Joe.

Haha yeah. I dislike Microsoft for their disgusting business practices and all the FUD they spread more than I hate them for making crappy software

And console gaming blows goats. The last console that kept my attention for more than a week was the N64. These days any game that comes out on a console that looks remotely interesting to me is usually already avalible on the computer. The last game to actually hold my interest was pikmin on the gamecube, so maybe nintendo can get some of my money with their new console and generally more inovative games rather than microsoft and sony's constant rehash of the same garbage(Halo sucks).

* Hitmen runs back to WoW

[Sidoh]

Haha yeah. I dislike Microsoft for their disgusting business practices and all the FUD they spread more than I hate them for making crappy software

And console gaming blows goats. The last console that kept my attention for more than a week was the N64. These days any game that comes out on a console that looks remotely interesting to me is usually already avalible on the computer. The last game to actually hold my interest was pikmin on the gamecube, so maybe nintendo can get some of my money with their new console and generally more inovative games rather than microsoft and sony's constant rehash of the same garbage(Halo sucks).

* Hitmen runs back to WoW

[/b]

I love you.

You probably have reasons. Joe is just jumping on the bandwagon, did you actually READ his post?
"Did you expect any better? Its made by Microsoft?"
I find him to be a big hypocrite because he's bashing a company that he's loyal to. [And don't even deny it joe, you fucking love windows]

Just because he uses it he's loyal to it?  I have plenty of reasons, so does Joe.  I seem to recall him switching back to Windows because he wanted to play GuildWars.  I think he can deny it all he wants, it's his opinion, not yours.

[iago]

Joe, what operating system do you have installed on your computer?
Microsoft windows. If you don't like their products, don't use them and don't bitch about them. Look'it iago! He's the best example.

Since everything in this world is imperfect to some degree (and humans desire perfection, and despise imperfection), I think that bitching about anything is invalid according to your claim.  I bitch about Windows, I use it.  I bitch about the US government, a huge part of my life is controlled by it.  I bitch about WoW, it's my favorite past time.

Basically, don't tell him to not bitch about Windows just because he uses it.  He has his reasons for using it and certainly has enough reason to bitch about it.

I disagree. 

Anybody who doesn't like Windows shouldn't use it.  There are alternatives which are (in my opinion, at least) vastly superior. 

In terms of the US government, you don't really have much choice there. 

And finally, WoW: you can't help it, it's an addiction :-P

[Armin]

Just a question to you: why don't you like Windows so much? I havn't had a single problem in years, now that I know what I'm doing. It's a hell of a lot easier to use Windows than it is any Linux distro if you're not used to them, and probably even if you are used to them.

[iago]

Just a question to you: why don't you like Windows so much? I havn't had a single problem in years, now that I know what I'm doing. It's a hell of a lot easier to use Windows than it is any Linux distro if you're not used to them, and probably even if you are used to them.

How long have you used Windows for?

If you'd used Linux for that many years, believe me, you'd like it more than you like Windows. 

Once you get used to Linux, it's so easy to do everything.  I have direct access to everything I need, every program I need is available in seconds, the directory structure is MUCH cleaner, I can re-install it without the hassle of backing everything up.  I can throw together quick programs using their free compiler and free development tools.  I can make quick scripts in their Bash shell to automate annoying tasks.  It takes up FAR less memory.  I don't have to worry about security updates, as long as I'm the only local user.  If I want software to do just about anything, it's probably free.  I also like having 6 workspaces, lightweight (on Windows, it takes up rediculous memory), and being able to switch between them instantly.  Also, I hate the desktop, taskbar, and start menu. 

Finally, pretty much every program I want to use (lately, anyway) is either Linux/Windows, or just Linux.  Plus, most programs I use (especially security stuff I used for work/use for fun) are distributed only as source, and compiling source on Windows is painful.

I'll give you a quick example of Bash scripting.  If you want to convert 100 pictures from 1200x1600 .jpg files to 800x600 .png files, how would you do it?

for i in *.jpg; do convert -resize 800x600 $i $i.png; done

And that's only a single line. 

I don't know of ANY way to do that on Windows, without converting them individually or buying a program. 

My final point is that, to quote Linus, the inventor of Linux, "The most important design issue is that Linux is supposed to be fun".  Windows isn't meant to be fun, it's meant to be commercial.

[deadly7]

Just a question to you: why don't you like Windows so much? I havn't had a single problem in years, now that I know what I'm doing. It's a hell of a lot easier to use Windows than it is any Linux distro if you're not used to them, and probably even if you are used to them.

How long have you used Windows for?

If you'd used Linux for that many years, believe me, you'd like it more than you like Windows.

Once you get used to Linux, it's so easy to do everything. I have direct access to everything I need, every program I need is available in seconds, the directory structure is MUCH cleaner, I can re-install it without the hassle of backing everything up. I can throw together quick programs using their free compiler and free development tools. I can make quick scripts in their Bash shell to automate annoying tasks. It takes up FAR less memory. I don't have to worry about security updates, as long as I'm the only local user. If I want software to do just about anything, it's probably free. I also like having 6 workspaces, lightweight (on Windows, it takes up rediculous memory), and being able to switch between them instantly. Also, I hate the desktop, taskbar, and start menu.

Finally, pretty much every program I want to use (lately, anyway) is either Linux/Windows, or just Linux. Plus, most programs I use (especially security stuff I used for work/use for fun) are distributed only as source, and compiling source on Windows is painful.

I'll give you a quick example of Bash scripting. If you want to convert 100 pictures from 1200x1600 .jpg files to 800x600 .png files, how would you do it?

for i in *.jpg; do convert -resize 800x600 $i $i.png; done

And that's only a single line.

I don't know of ANY way to do that on Windows, without converting them individually or buying a program.

My final point is that, to quote Linus, the inventor of Linux, "The most important design issue is that Linux is supposed to be fun". Windows isn't meant to be fun, it's meant to be commercial.

Not always.  I've compiled a couple programs on Windows (that were pretty big) and didn't take TOO long, though it was a hassle. Oh wells.

[iago]

On Linux, it's common and not a hassel.  Stuff is designed to compile on Linux. 

It's very rare that opensource developers use Visual Studio, because of the cost.  So it's very uncommon (in fact, I've never seen it happen..) that an opensource project support Visual Studio.  And using gcc for Windows is painful. 

[Warrior]

And using gcc for Windows is painful. 

Hell yes.

[RoMi]

This has been fixed it was sue to the power supply overheating.  If you pick it off a carpet it fixes it.  As seen here http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=23998153&page=0

[rabbit]

Sarge: XBox 360?  How'd I miss versions 2 through 359?
Simmons: Technology moves fast.

[Sidoh]

I disagree. 

Anybody who doesn't like Windows shouldn't use it.  There are alternatives which are (in my opinion, at least) vastly superior. 

In terms of the US government, you don't really have much choice there. 

And finally, WoW: you can't help it, it's an addiction :-P

Haha, yeah.  I honestly don't think I could just "stop" playing WoW.  I have a lot of friends I've made that would probably wonder where I vanished to.

[Armin]

This has been fixed it was sue to the power supply overheating.  If you pick it off a carpet it fixes it.  As seen here http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=23998153&page=0

Rofl, looks like another power supply recall for MS.

[Sidoh]

I don't know of ANY way to do that on Windows, without converting them individually or buying a program. 

There's a free Windows XP PowerToy that allows you to resize multiple images:

Image Resizer

This PowerToy enables you to resize one or many image files with a right-click.

I know exactly where you're coming from, though.  Really the only reason I use Windows over Linux is because I'm so used to it (and have very few problems using it) and because I'm a moderately avid gamer.

for i in *.jpg; do convert -resize 800x600 $i $i.png; done

I didn't know you could do that!  Buahah, I'm going to have all kinds of fun now.

Edit -- I didn't see that you wanted to convert them to PNG as well.  To do that, I'd probably just use FastStone Image Converter, which I also use to convert all of my WoW screenshots (when they're not taken using FRAPS) from TGA to PNG.

[trust]

That power toy is great, I use it ALL the time.

[Sidoh]

That power toy is great, I use it ALL the time.

Yeah, it's really useful.

[iago]

I like my way better.  I can also change compression, add filters, and do it to all files in all subfolders that match a certain pattern, then proceed to upload the new pictures all without user interaction. 

Plus, it's just one example of something that is scriptable.   On Linux, everything is scriptable

[Sidoh]

I like my way better.  I can also change compression, add filters, and do it to all files in all subfolders that match a certain pattern, then proceed to upload the new pictures all without user interaction. 

Plus, it's just one example of something that is scriptable.   On Linux, everything is scriptable

Hehe, I do too.  I'm just showing you that it's possible on Windows without paying.

Yes, that's one thing I've really enjoyed with Linux, it's very flexible; you just have to know how to... bend it.

[iago]

I like my way better.  I can also change compression, add filters, and do it to all files in all subfolders that match a certain pattern, then proceed to upload the new pictures all without user interaction. 

Plus, it's just one example of something that is scriptable.   On Linux, everything is scriptable

Hehe, I do too.  I'm just showing you that it's possible on Windows without paying.

Yes, that's one thing I've really enjoyed with Linux, it's very flexible; you just have to know how to... bend it.

"Over a table" works well.  :-P

Yeah, Linux is great if you know what you're doing.  But when anybody here started using Windows, they didn't know what they were doing either.  So it's all relative

[Joe]

Yep. I think they lose around $176 per console, including labor. They're making their money off of games/accessories.

And I hate people who dislike Microsoft because it's the "cool" thing to do but really have no basis for their claims. Joe.

I have enough reasons to justify complaining.