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Offline iago

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Re: Southern View!
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2005, 12:53:37 pm »
Salt water doesn't freeze at 0o.  And it's not cold enough for water to freeze all year round.  Therefore, whatever room you're in is going to sink come summer, so whoever came up with the idea of building a room there is stupid. 

But anyway, bears don't live on the ocean, they live on land.  There can't be a bear there, unless it was imported or dragged there!

<edit> maybe the answer is "blue, with icicles hanging off him"..  Because he'd be frozen solid :)

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Re: Southern View!
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2005, 01:19:31 pm »
I see nothing wrong with my logic. 

Assuming that all southern means he's at the North Pole (because otherwise, we can't conclude anything), it would have to be a bear that lives at the North Pole.  However, I don't think there are bears at the North Pole, it's too far north even for them to survive.  So I'd say it's impossible. 

Or, the answer is Polar Bear, but I think that's wrong :)

Haha, that's a good point.  I think it should be rephrased, though.  :P

Sure, the North Pole is in the middle of the Arctic Ocean. But do you seriously think that its over 0[super]o[/super] celsius up there? Stuff can be placed on ice, and theres a whole ton of water to freeze.

Let me clarify this. You are at the North Pole.

Maybe it would be black then?  I'm guessing it might have something to do with the daylight setting...

Salt water doesn't freeze at 0o.  And it's not cold enough for water to freeze all year round.  Therefore, whatever room you're in is going to sink come summer, so whoever came up with the idea of building a room there is stupid. 

But anyway, bears don't live on the ocean, they live on land.  There can't be a bear there, unless it was imported or dragged there!

<edit> maybe the answer is "blue, with icicles hanging off him"..  Because he'd be frozen solid :)

I think the ice is thick enough (plus I think the temperature would drop below the point that salt water freezes) that it would stay solid year-round.

But yeah, haha. I don't think there'd be much of a bear alive there.

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Re: Southern View!
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2005, 01:30:00 pm »
You think most of the worlds oceans aren't below 0 c?  Just because they're below, doesn't mean they freeze; there is too much to freeze which means there are just random iceburgs.
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Re: Southern View!
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2005, 01:50:58 pm »
You think most of the worlds oceans aren't below 0 c?  Just because they're below, doesn't mean they freeze; there is too much to freeze which means there are just random iceburgs.

When it's low enough (especially when the sunlight is in much less quantity in other portions of the world), it'll form pretty massive formations of ice (Antarctica, for example).

Additionally, I don't think most of the worlds oceans are below 0° C.  It would be foolish to assume so seeing as massive bodies of waters retain their temperatures extremely well (they're very resistant to short but radical temperature spells); seeing how the average temperature on the surface of Earth is nowhere near 0° C, it would be a very illogical conclusion.

Pure H2O freezes at 0° C, period.  No exceptions.  Even if it is part of a huge body of water, it's going to freeze.  Oceans are resistant to freezing over for two reasons:  One, they're salt water.  Salt water's freezing point is lower than pure water (as iago already mentioned).  Secondly, they're huge bodies of water.  This has nothing to with the temperature that the water must delve to in order to freeze.  It's for the same reason that an ice cube melts when you put in a cup of water.  Heat (the diffusion of thermal energy from an object of higher thermal energy to an area of lower thermal energy).  The entropy of a frame of reference specified in an ocean (1 Km3) will reach a state of perfect entropy (randomness) given some amount of time (which depends on the temperature of the water to begin with) if you were to apply some force to a smaller portion of the water.  This means that the temperature of the entire frame of reference must change, not just a tiny place where you applied the force.

However, if your frame of reference is really large (say an entire ocean), there will be random blotches of ice (ice burgs, like you said).  There are obvious and alternative reasons that ice burgs exist, though.  For one, a lot of them are still around from when the global temperature in fact was below 0° C.  They're constantly melting small amounts into the water that surrounds them (following the law of entropy).

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« Last Edit: December 04, 2005, 02:07:49 pm by Sidoh »

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Re: Southern View!
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2005, 02:07:38 pm »
You guys are thinking way too hard.
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: Southern View!
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2005, 02:08:29 pm »
You guys are thinking way too hard.

My last post was in retort to Blaze's post, not the riddle (I go off topic.  You know this).

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Re: Southern View!
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2005, 02:46:09 pm »
The bear is red from eating the last person who was in that room :/
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Re: Southern View!
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2005, 02:47:50 pm »
Well, I got what I wanted from Sidoh, thanks. :)
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Re: Southern View!
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2005, 03:05:48 pm »
Wrong.
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: Southern View!
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2005, 03:06:44 pm »
Well, I got what I wanted from Sidoh, thanks. :)

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Re: Southern View!
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2005, 04:15:35 pm »
I think we've explored all the logical avenues.  Perhaps we should move on to the assumption that the answer is something really dumb?

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Re: Southern View!
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2005, 05:33:48 pm »
You guys are thinking way too hard.

Except my answer is correct. I decided to check the riddle on google, and yes, I'm right.

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Re: Southern View!
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2005, 05:49:55 pm »
I think we've explored all the logical avenues.  Perhaps we should move on to the assumption that the answer is something really dumb?

Completely agreed.

Except my answer is correct. I decided to check the riddle on google, and yes, I'm right.

Your answer is something really dumb, sorry to say.  :P

He asked what color the bear is, not what color its skin is.

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Re: Southern View!
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2005, 06:35:44 pm »
the answer is obvious!

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Re: Southern View!
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2005, 06:50:56 pm »
I think we've explored all the logical avenues.  Perhaps we should move on to the assumption that the answer is something really dumb?

Completely agreed.

Except my answer is correct. I decided to check the riddle on google, and yes, I'm right.

Your answer is something really dumb, sorry to say.  :P

He asked what color the bear is, not what color its skin is.

Except I didn't say what color its skin is. I said what color its fur is, which is, of course, what you see when looking at a bear.