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Physics.
« on: December 06, 2005, 07:18:39 pm »
You guys seem to like these riddles so here it  goes.  You place a perfectly spherical ball on a  2m ramp with an incline of 65 degrees.  Both the ramp and the ball are frictionless.  At what velocity is the ball rolling when it reaches the bottom of the ramp? 

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2005, 07:51:02 pm »
Since I used MathType for all of my equasions, I typed it in MS Word and saved it as a .html page:

http://www.sidoh.org/school/Physics/Physics_Problem.htm

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2005, 07:53:17 pm »
Sidoh, gimme mathtype.

Anyways, numbers confirmed.

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2005, 08:43:01 pm »
Sidoh, gimme mathtype.

Anyways, numbers confirmed.

http://sidoh.dark-wire.net/Files/MathType52Setup.exe

It's a free trial edition.  I never found a crack that worked, so I just used the toned down version that it reverts to after 30 days.  It works fine for almost everything unless you're a seroius mathematician. :)

I'll move this to 'Solved Riddles' once Nate confirms it's the correct answer.  I'm still a bit eery on the whole "frictionless" thing.

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2005, 09:10:44 pm »
Wait... did you just do his homework...?
And like a fool I believed myself, and thought I was somebody else...

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2005, 09:12:05 pm »
Sidoh got it right.  Although all that work wasn't required.  The ball will slide down the ramp not roll if it is frictionless.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2005, 09:13:52 pm by Nate »

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2005, 09:31:02 pm »
Sidoh got it right.  Although all that work wasn't required.  The ball will slide down the ramp not roll if it is frictionless.

Then the answer would be different.  If rotational kinetic energy exists, the center-of-mass magnitude will decrease.

Here's the correct answer (though I like my other one more since it's more practical):



Saying it was frictionless took all the fun out of it. :(

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2005, 10:54:20 pm »
Sidoh got it right.  Although all that work wasn't required.  The ball will slide down the ramp not roll if it is frictionless.

Damnit, I was going to say it would slide :)

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2005, 10:55:24 pm »
Damnit, I was going to say it would slide :)

I kind of figured it would, but I couldn't pass up on the oportunity to play with rotational kinetic energy. :)

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2005, 11:18:08 pm »
hopefully my phisics class next year eases into this :)

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2005, 12:30:49 am »
hopefully my phisics class next year eases into this :)

This isn't hard stuff, it's all algebra!

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2005, 01:04:01 am »
Moving this to solved.

There are other interesting problems like this.  You don't have to ignore friction, either!  It makes things a lot more interesting.  :)

One of the problems we did today was how much thermal energy is generated from a book that is pushed at a certain velocity and stops after a certain distance.  It was pretty interesting seeing the numbers behind friction. :)

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2005, 03:21:06 pm »
Saying it was frictionless took all the fun out of it. :(

For you maybe but its quite enjoyable for me to watch you do all that work for nothing.

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2005, 03:38:47 pm »
For you maybe but its quite enjoyable for me to watch you do all that work for nothing.

Not for nothing!

It was a good representation of rotational kinetic energy! :]

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2005, 02:03:42 pm »
Btw, everybody who posts a physics problem should give it a good name.  I'm never sure which physics problem is which, so I usually don't look at any of them :)

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2005, 07:18:31 pm »
ok I could name this, "What is the rotational velocity of a perfect sphere travelling down a ramp in a frictionless world?".  You would click on that? I think not...

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2005, 07:33:06 pm »
ok I could name this, "What is the rotational velocity of a perfect sphere travelling down a ramp in a frictionless world?".  You would click on that? I think not...

Then the riddle would be entirely too easy.  All you'd have to say is 0 and you'd be correct; no math involved!  Booorrrinngg... :(

You could name it "Ramp + Sphere - Friction = ?" or something like that.  You just have to be creative. :)

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Re: Physics.
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2005, 09:06:50 pm »
or just "Physics: rolling ball"