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Umm, help me out here!
« on: January 13, 2006, 05:20:45 pm »
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6632/wowbug7lg.jpg
Wtf. This happens in ANY game. Not only that, but in programs! I dont know how to fix it.

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2006, 05:30:05 pm »
Define programs. Firefox, MS Paint?

Is that bridge made of wood?! =p

Looks like its a DirectX problem to me.
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2006, 05:53:07 pm »
EVERY program bugs out, even in the slightest way

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2006, 09:31:02 pm »
Update your video drivers. I had a type of problem like this, TSE told me to update and I never had a problem after doing so.

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2006, 10:10:57 pm »
http://www.keyurd.com/screenshots/WoW/gfx-screwup.png
Fixed by updating Video Drivers and DirectX to newest.
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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2006, 10:27:52 pm »
those were the first things ive tried

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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2006, 11:55:17 pm »
yeah, I just even made sure I had them updated to the max, and they are

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2006, 11:58:20 pm »
Try downgrading if you just patched recently?
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2006, 01:07:50 am »
I tried that, nothing! I even tried system restore to about a week ago

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2006, 01:26:42 am »
It could be one of the following:

 -- OS / low-level software corruption (probably requires OS repair/reinstall)
 -- Bad hardware (video card, obviously).

I really doubt it's hardware as it appears on the screenshot too, but I suppose it could be.  If it persists, I'd recommend repairing the OS.

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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2006, 12:34:37 pm »
I tried that, nothing! I even tried system restore to about a week ago
Try e-mailing nVIDIA/ATI or whoever the hell made your video card.
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2006, 01:57:01 pm »
Are screenshots in WoW hardware or software rendered?  Towelie, try installing FRAPS and taking a few screenshots with it. Try taking screenshots in other games too to see if the same things appear.

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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2006, 03:02:24 pm »
as I said, it happens in any game, and in regular programs too.

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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2006, 03:26:44 pm »
Are screenshots in WoW hardware or software rendered?  Towelie, try installing FRAPS and taking a few screenshots with it. Try taking screenshots in other games too to see if the same things appear.
I believe that they are hardware rendered.  If he's having issues such as that, something is wrong with the driver (i.e.: he downloaded the improper one by accident).
Towelie, what're the specs of your computer? What version of Windows are you using?
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2006, 03:34:43 pm »
I believe that they are hardware rendered.  If he's having issues such as that, something is wrong with the driver (i.e.: he downloaded the improper one by accident).
Towelie, what're the specs of your computer? What version of Windows are you using?

Not necessarily.  It could be a defective piece of hardware as well.

Every driver I've ever installed won't let you install it if you don't have the device it is intended for in your computer.

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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2006, 06:28:46 pm »
Nah, I accidentally installed a Win64 driver before.. and I don't have WindowsXP 64-bit edition.

If it's a defective piece of hardware, e-mailing his card provider would fix that. ;)
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2006, 06:37:34 pm »
Nah, I accidentally installed a Win64 driver before.. and I don't have WindowsXP 64-bit edition.

If it's a defective piece of hardware, e-mailing his card provider would fix that. ;)

You can't open a 64 bit application on a 32 bit OS...

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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2006, 08:36:34 pm »
I reinstalled my video driver, I have downgraded my video driver, I have reinstalled my monitor driver, I have upgraded my bios, I have used system restore. I am out of ideas!

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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2006, 09:00:26 pm »
I reinstalled my video driver, I have downgraded my video driver, I have reinstalled my monitor driver, I have upgraded my bios, I have used system restore. I am out of ideas!

Have you tried repairing the operating system?  I don't mean system restore; it completely wipes the OS files and reinstalls them.

If it's not that, it sounds like it's a hardware issue.

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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2006, 11:53:11 pm »
Nah, I accidentally installed a Win64 driver before.. and I don't have WindowsXP 64-bit edition.

If it's a defective piece of hardware, e-mailing his card provider would fix that. ;)

You can't open a 64 bit application on a 32 bit OS...
I think I set the compatability for it or something, it was weird.. I had a lot of free time and felt like trying something new. Heh..
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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2006, 11:57:02 pm »
I think I set the compatability for it or something, it was weird.. I had a lot of free time and felt like trying something new. Heh..

You can't open a 64 bit application on a 32 bit OS... it's like trying to open MS Word 2003 on MS-DOS.  "setting the compatibility" would be installing an emulator, which is stupid anyway.

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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2006, 09:46:10 am »
64Bit applications on a 32Bit OS wont run, period. The OS which predates 64Bit being widely used does not take account for the address space changes in 64Bit and a 64Bit program uses registers which the CPU cannot understand, my guess is an invalid opcode error would occur. Just guessing though.

It's unlikely he downloaded the wrong drivers since ATi uses a universal Catalyst Driver, might be an old version or a beta version of the driver he got, really hard to tell unless he gives more info. I wouldn't get so hasty and reformat just yet.

Go into the Ati Control Center and disable things like Anistrophic Filtering, and Anti Aliasing or check the "Let the program decide for me"  since that seems like a fucked up Anti Aliasing and dissolving issue to me.

Try uninstalling all the video card drivers and reinstalling them using the latest Catalyst Drivers from ati.com and try making sure DirectX is the latest (9.0c) by going to run -> dxdiag. It wouldn't hurt to take some of the Diagnostics test there either.

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2006, 01:52:45 pm »
64Bit applications on a 32Bit OS wont run, period. The OS which predates 64Bit being widely used does not take account for the address space changes in 64Bit and a 64Bit program uses registers which the CPU cannot understand, my guess is an invalid opcode error would occur. Just guessing though.

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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2006, 02:47:48 pm »
64Bit applications on a 32Bit OS wont run, period. The OS which predates 64Bit being widely used does not take account for the address space changes in 64Bit and a 64Bit program uses registers which the CPU cannot understand, my guess is an invalid opcode error would occur. Just guessing though.

It's unlikely he downloaded the wrong drivers since ATi uses a universal Catalyst Driver, might be an old version or a beta version of the driver he got, really hard to tell unless he gives more info. I wouldn't get so hasty and reformat just yet.

Go into the Ati Control Center and disable things like Anistrophic Filtering, and Anti Aliasing or check the "Let the program decide for me"  since that seems like a fucked up Anti Aliasing and dissolving issue to me.

Try uninstalling all the video card drivers and reinstalling them using the latest Catalyst Drivers from ati.com and try making sure DirectX is the latest (9.0c) by going to run -> dxdiag. It wouldn't hurt to take some of the Diagnostics test there either.

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They are already on "Let the program decide for me", and Catalyst is up to date (I have dled and installed it MULTIPLE times). DirectX IS at 9.0c. Theonly reason reformatting seems so good now, is because using my windows xp cd to repair it did the following:
1. Added 5+ minutes to my startup time
2. Had me reinstall all of my drivers (I have tried installing my sound driver multiple time, still no results)
3. I still have the problem!!!

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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2006, 02:50:09 pm »
They are already on "Let the program decide for me", and Catalyst is up to date (I have dled and installed it MULTIPLE times). DirectX IS at 9.0c. Theonly reason reformatting seems so good now, is because using my windows xp cd to repair it did the following:
1. Added 5+ minutes to my startup time
2. Had me reinstall all of my drivers (I have tried installing my sound driver multiple time, still no results)
3. I still have the problem!!!

You're obviously missing the point, Towelie.  This is inevitable.  You're going to have to do something (probably buy another part) about this or it's going to persist.  The initial problem was more than a simple annoyance, if you ask me.  It indicated a corrupt (or possibly corrupting) piece of hardware -- it needs to be replaced.

At this point, I would assume it's your video card or hard drive, but it's hard to say.

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« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2006, 03:08:17 pm »
I am waiting on a response from ati.

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« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2006, 04:12:18 pm »
That's why I don't buy ATI cards. ;) nVIDIA has like, awesome response times.  I emailed them with a problem (on Saturday night) and Sunday afternoon Gmail's like "wurd up brotha you got new e-mail."
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« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2006, 04:34:29 pm »
Here is a direct quote from a friend of mine:

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(10:15:47) (+DJLindley) ati are fuckin idiots... i send them pic with error why their drivers are CUNT and then they email me back with installation instructions

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« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2006, 06:16:00 pm »
At this point, I would assume it's your video card or hard drive, but it's hard to say.
I very much doubt it's the hard drive, I think the only thing that could cause this would be the video card. 

Here is a direct quote from a friend of mine:

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(10:15:47) (+DJLindley) ati are fuckin idiots... i send them pic with error why their drivers are CUNT and then they email me back with installation instructions
That guy sounds like an idiot, I wouldn't bother listening to anything he says. 

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« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2006, 06:19:56 pm »
I very much doubt it's the hard drive, I think the only thing that could cause this would be the video card. 

Haha, yeah.  I really doubt it too, but it's the only other thing I can think possible in the situation.

That guy sounds like an idiot, I wouldn't bother listening to anything he says. 

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« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2006, 06:43:26 pm »
I very much doubt it's the hard drive, I think the only thing that could cause this would be the video card. 

Haha, yeah.  I really doubt it too, but it's the only other thing I can think possible in the situation.

That guy sounds like an idiot, I wouldn't bother listening to anything he says. 

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How could the hard-drive possibly be at fault?  If the hard-drive was sending information wrong, other things would happen.. graphics wouldn't mess up.

Yeah, I don't like ATI much for reasons that're my own. I'm an nVIDIA whore.
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« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2006, 06:51:00 pm »
Hmm let's see, on disk configs, page files being mapped into the address space incorrectly, get creative.
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« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2006, 06:59:43 pm »
Hmm let's see, on disk configs, page files being mapped into the address space incorrectly, get creative.

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