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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2006, 06:28:46 pm »
Nah, I accidentally installed a Win64 driver before.. and I don't have WindowsXP 64-bit edition.

If it's a defective piece of hardware, e-mailing his card provider would fix that. ;)
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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2006, 06:37:34 pm »
Nah, I accidentally installed a Win64 driver before.. and I don't have WindowsXP 64-bit edition.

If it's a defective piece of hardware, e-mailing his card provider would fix that. ;)

You can't open a 64 bit application on a 32 bit OS...

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2006, 08:36:34 pm »
I reinstalled my video driver, I have downgraded my video driver, I have reinstalled my monitor driver, I have upgraded my bios, I have used system restore. I am out of ideas!

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2006, 09:00:26 pm »
I reinstalled my video driver, I have downgraded my video driver, I have reinstalled my monitor driver, I have upgraded my bios, I have used system restore. I am out of ideas!

Have you tried repairing the operating system?  I don't mean system restore; it completely wipes the OS files and reinstalls them.

If it's not that, it sounds like it's a hardware issue.

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2006, 11:53:11 pm »
Nah, I accidentally installed a Win64 driver before.. and I don't have WindowsXP 64-bit edition.

If it's a defective piece of hardware, e-mailing his card provider would fix that. ;)

You can't open a 64 bit application on a 32 bit OS...
I think I set the compatability for it or something, it was weird.. I had a lot of free time and felt like trying something new. Heh..
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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2006, 11:57:02 pm »
I think I set the compatability for it or something, it was weird.. I had a lot of free time and felt like trying something new. Heh..

You can't open a 64 bit application on a 32 bit OS... it's like trying to open MS Word 2003 on MS-DOS.  "setting the compatibility" would be installing an emulator, which is stupid anyway.

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2006, 09:46:10 am »
64Bit applications on a 32Bit OS wont run, period. The OS which predates 64Bit being widely used does not take account for the address space changes in 64Bit and a 64Bit program uses registers which the CPU cannot understand, my guess is an invalid opcode error would occur. Just guessing though.

It's unlikely he downloaded the wrong drivers since ATi uses a universal Catalyst Driver, might be an old version or a beta version of the driver he got, really hard to tell unless he gives more info. I wouldn't get so hasty and reformat just yet.

Go into the Ati Control Center and disable things like Anistrophic Filtering, and Anti Aliasing or check the "Let the program decide for me"  since that seems like a fucked up Anti Aliasing and dissolving issue to me.

Try uninstalling all the video card drivers and reinstalling them using the latest Catalyst Drivers from ati.com and try making sure DirectX is the latest (9.0c) by going to run -> dxdiag. It wouldn't hurt to take some of the Diagnostics test there either.

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2006, 01:52:45 pm »
64Bit applications on a 32Bit OS wont run, period. The OS which predates 64Bit being widely used does not take account for the address space changes in 64Bit and a 64Bit program uses registers which the CPU cannot understand, my guess is an invalid opcode error would occur. Just guessing though.

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2006, 02:47:48 pm »
64Bit applications on a 32Bit OS wont run, period. The OS which predates 64Bit being widely used does not take account for the address space changes in 64Bit and a 64Bit program uses registers which the CPU cannot understand, my guess is an invalid opcode error would occur. Just guessing though.

It's unlikely he downloaded the wrong drivers since ATi uses a universal Catalyst Driver, might be an old version or a beta version of the driver he got, really hard to tell unless he gives more info. I wouldn't get so hasty and reformat just yet.

Go into the Ati Control Center and disable things like Anistrophic Filtering, and Anti Aliasing or check the "Let the program decide for me"  since that seems like a fucked up Anti Aliasing and dissolving issue to me.

Try uninstalling all the video card drivers and reinstalling them using the latest Catalyst Drivers from ati.com and try making sure DirectX is the latest (9.0c) by going to run -> dxdiag. It wouldn't hurt to take some of the Diagnostics test there either.

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They are already on "Let the program decide for me", and Catalyst is up to date (I have dled and installed it MULTIPLE times). DirectX IS at 9.0c. Theonly reason reformatting seems so good now, is because using my windows xp cd to repair it did the following:
1. Added 5+ minutes to my startup time
2. Had me reinstall all of my drivers (I have tried installing my sound driver multiple time, still no results)
3. I still have the problem!!!

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2006, 02:50:09 pm »
They are already on "Let the program decide for me", and Catalyst is up to date (I have dled and installed it MULTIPLE times). DirectX IS at 9.0c. Theonly reason reformatting seems so good now, is because using my windows xp cd to repair it did the following:
1. Added 5+ minutes to my startup time
2. Had me reinstall all of my drivers (I have tried installing my sound driver multiple time, still no results)
3. I still have the problem!!!

You're obviously missing the point, Towelie.  This is inevitable.  You're going to have to do something (probably buy another part) about this or it's going to persist.  The initial problem was more than a simple annoyance, if you ask me.  It indicated a corrupt (or possibly corrupting) piece of hardware -- it needs to be replaced.

At this point, I would assume it's your video card or hard drive, but it's hard to say.

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2006, 03:08:17 pm »
I am waiting on a response from ati.

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2006, 04:12:18 pm »
That's why I don't buy ATI cards. ;) nVIDIA has like, awesome response times.  I emailed them with a problem (on Saturday night) and Sunday afternoon Gmail's like "wurd up brotha you got new e-mail."
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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2006, 04:34:29 pm »
Here is a direct quote from a friend of mine:

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(10:15:47) (+DJLindley) ati are fuckin idiots... i send them pic with error why their drivers are CUNT and then they email me back with installation instructions

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2006, 06:16:00 pm »
At this point, I would assume it's your video card or hard drive, but it's hard to say.
I very much doubt it's the hard drive, I think the only thing that could cause this would be the video card. 

Here is a direct quote from a friend of mine:

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(10:15:47) (+DJLindley) ati are fuckin idiots... i send them pic with error why their drivers are CUNT and then they email me back with installation instructions
That guy sounds like an idiot, I wouldn't bother listening to anything he says. 

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Re: Umm, help me out here!
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2006, 06:19:56 pm »
I very much doubt it's the hard drive, I think the only thing that could cause this would be the video card. 

Haha, yeah.  I really doubt it too, but it's the only other thing I can think possible in the situation.

That guy sounds like an idiot, I wouldn't bother listening to anything he says. 

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