Author Topic: ZOMG Bill Gates owns the IRS (Read 6379 times)

MyndFyre · « **on:** February 02, 2006, 09:53:22 pm »

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.asp?Feed=FRB&Date=20060202&ID=5470861

(I've been waiting for a good reason to use "ZOMG")

Hahahaha, the IRS needs to *UPGRADE* to Windows!

Newby · « **Reply #1 on:** February 02, 2006, 10:52:39 pm »

That's pretty bad, the normal computers can't do numbers that big. Hahahaha.

GameSnake · « **Reply #2 on:** February 02, 2006, 10:56:16 pm »

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Being worth $47 billion and the chairman of a multinational corporate behemoth must be a lot harder than it looks. Consider yourselves lucky, folks.

Oh my ass.

iago · « **Reply #3 on:** February 02, 2006, 11:38:24 pm »

Quote from: MyndFyre[x86] on February 02, 2006, 09:53:22 pm

Hahahaha, the IRS needs to *UPGRADE* to Windows!

At every (real) place I've ever worked at (government, university, grocery), financial stuff is done on a proprietary system, not on Windows or Linux or anything. I'm not really sure why, though.

GameSnake · « **Reply #4 on:** February 03, 2006, 02:00:41 am »

For extra security reasons i'm guessing?

iago · « **Reply #5 on:** February 03, 2006, 10:49:22 am »

Not likely.

Probably because it's so bloody hard to migrate financial data that it just gets left on whatever system it started on.

But realistically, you don't need a lot of processing power to look after financial stuff, so why bother upgrading?

rabbit · « **Reply #6 on:** February 03, 2006, 06:23:44 pm »

Because they are running tape?

iago · « **Reply #7 on:** February 03, 2006, 06:28:58 pm »

So? If it works, it works.

trust · « **Reply #8 on:** February 03, 2006, 09:36:24 pm »

Quote from: iago on February 03, 2006, 06:28:58 pm

So? If it works, it works.

But it obviously isn't working...

iago · « **Reply #9 on:** February 03, 2006, 09:39:18 pm »

In 199,999,999 out of 200,000,000 cases, it works. I wouldn't consider that important enough to re-do the entire infrastructure.

igimo1 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 03, 2006, 10:10:39 pm »

What's the size of a long? That might have something to do with his incredible fortune and the IRS computers not being able to handle it.

GameSnake · « **Reply #11 on:** February 03, 2006, 10:18:39 pm »

So I'm wondering how they handled Rockafellar's taxes?(the richest man ever to live, worth ~200 billion)

Joe · « **Reply #12 on:** February 04, 2006, 02:18:16 am »

Quote from: Topaz on February 03, 2006, 10:10:39 pm

What's the size of a long? That might have something to do with his incredible fortune and the IRS computers not being able to handle it.

A VB long or a C++ long? A VB long is a 32-bit value, and a C++ long is the size of a system DWORD, which is 64-bit's in a 32-bit machine, and 128-bits on a 64-bit machine. If you're feeling retro and go back to 16-bits, it'll be 32-bits.

iago · « **Reply #13 on:** February 04, 2006, 03:15:54 am »

Quote from: Topaz on February 03, 2006, 10:10:39 pm

What's the size of a long? That might have something to do with his incredible fortune and the IRS computers not being able to handle it.

The maximum value of a 4-byte value is 4.2 billion, which is probably what they're using if they're having this problem. And Joe is incorrect, a long (in C) is 4 bytes. I'm not aware of any system where it's not 4 bytes. A short is 2 bytes, a long is 4 bytes, and an int is dependant on the system it's running on.

Quote from: GameSnake on February 03, 2006, 10:18:39 pm

So I'm wondering how they handled Rockafellar's taxes?(the richest man ever to live, worth ~200 billion)

I believe (and I could be wrong) that that has been converted (with inflation and stuff). He wasn't actually worth 200 billion, he was worth the equivalent of 200billion at his time.

Also, he died in like 1935ish, which was before computers were invented. So I doubt that they had problems with how the computers calculated his tax.

rabbit · « **Reply #14 on:** February 04, 2006, 09:31:46 am »

Not to mention that Rockafellar was worth $200 billion USD (present), as opposed to having a few hundred billion in a vault somewhere.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #15 on:** February 04, 2006, 10:58:34 am »

Pretty nifty.

Out of curiosity, what is Gates position with Microsoft?...he own it or..

iago · « **Reply #16 on:** February 04, 2006, 03:07:09 pm »

He was the CEO, but he's not anymore. I think he's still on the board, and possibly still owns the majority of the shares.

Joe · « **Reply #17 on:** February 04, 2006, 06:58:46 pm »

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A short is 2 bytes, a long is 4 bytes, and an int is dependant on the system it's running on.

Ew. I was thinking a long was a system DWORD, an int was a system WORD (I was right, woo!), and I a short was a system HWORD.

MyndFyre · « **Reply #18 on:** February 04, 2006, 09:23:50 pm »

Quote from: Joe on February 04, 2006, 06:58:46 pm

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A short is 2 bytes, a long is 4 bytes, and an int is dependant on the system it's running on.

Ew. I was thinking a long was a system DWORD, an int was a system WORD (I was right, woo!), and I a short was a system HWORD.

What is a system HWORD?

Newby · « **Reply #19 on:** February 04, 2006, 09:33:10 pm »

Half word?

iago · « **Reply #20 on:** February 05, 2006, 01:02:39 pm »

Yeah, a halfword.

Also keep in mind that Windows and some other OSes misuse the terms 'WORD' and 'DWORD', so they are, overall, pretty meaningless. You're best off just using int8_t, int16_t, and int32_t, or whatever is defined on your system.

Newby · « **Reply #21 on:** February 05, 2006, 01:21:18 pm »

Quote from: iago on February 04, 2006, 03:07:09 pm

He was the CEO, but he's not anymore. I think he's still on the board, and possibly still owns the majority of the shares.

He's the CFO.

Sidoh · « **Reply #22 on:** February 05, 2006, 02:11:25 pm »

He's also the Chief Software Architect.

MyndFyre · « **Reply #23 on:** February 06, 2006, 11:23:03 am »

Quote from: iago on February 05, 2006, 01:02:39 pm

Yeah, a halfword.

Also keep in mind that Windows and some other OSes misuse the terms 'WORD' and 'DWORD', so they are, overall, pretty meaningless. You're best off just using int8_t, int16_t, and int32_t, or whatever is defined on your system.

So what do we do when we get to 64-bit computing as the standard? What's a 16-bit value? A QWORD (quarter word)? We already have that, it's quad-word.

I've also never seen a "dh" command in assembly.

iago · « **Reply #24 on:** February 06, 2006, 11:36:08 am »

Quote from: MyndFyre[x86] on February 06, 2006, 11:23:03 am

Quote from: iago on February 05, 2006, 01:02:39 pm
Yeah, a halfword.

Also keep in mind that Windows and some other OSes misuse the terms 'WORD' and 'DWORD', so they are, overall, pretty meaningless. You're best off just using int8_t, int16_t, and int32_t, or whatever is defined on your system.

So what do we do when we get to 64-bit computing as the standard? What's a 16-bit value? A QWORD (quarter word)? We already have that, it's quad-word.

I've also never seen a "dh" command in assembly.

16 bits would either be a Quarter-WORD (they'd find a way to abbreviate it) or go unused or just be called a int16_t. You don't really ever HAVE to use terms like "word" and "Dword" in programming, and it's generally a good idea not to, because they aren't consistant across platforms. But because people incorrectly used them in many cases, they got stuck being unable to change it.

rabbit · « **Reply #25 on:** February 07, 2006, 07:14:11 pm »

Like on Bnet Docs.

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Author Topic: ZOMG Bill Gates owns the IRS (Read 6379 times)

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