Isn't it obvious? Look how EVERYTHING is handled in the Linux kernel
Yeah, in the same way 3.1 handles everything when compared to 95. They're different, Warrior.
1) Jeff has Zend Encoded which he said I could use. No thanks at providing the source.
2) I would fix my bugs the day I learn about them, I want my source to stay with me.
3) No thanks, they can go through the same process I went through. They arn't going to get rewarded for doing
nothing, sorry.
I write my code, I have a right to not show my code.
In response to:
1) Okay, fair enough. It's still a waste of time.
2) Unless you're a hermit, that's physically impossible.
3) Selfishness is stupid. Greediness is going to get you nowhere in this situation.
I didn't say you don't have that right. I'm suggesting you don't take advantage of it.
I think I already discussed things at length before, it's because of Linux users who hop on Microsoft for every mistake. They take the extra time to make sure it really works. Make sure no new strains of the exploit occur and for more information regarding it.
Haha, I think this was a
huge deal. IE renders an image and your computer's toast? That's a massive deal. It's something that should be jumped on. They can't release a patch they know works and then make sure those things are in order? No. They care more about profit than customer satisfaction. That's how Microsoft is. That's why I don't respect them as much as I do the open source community.
Look on Channel9 and MSDN, how do you think I know so much about Vista? I know pretty much all the main details of its internals and a lot of details on how it will handle low level things.
No. Do it for me. You made me find you links.
I'm sorry but since when don't programmers take security measures? This may be so for Linux users..
Ugh, do I have to explain everything? You take everything that can relate directly to programming in that context. Stop, please.
By security measures, I mean implementing CD key validators, registration methods and things of this nature. Microsoft spends a noticable chunk of time doing things like this.
I didn't call them that, people that visit the websites and grab the exploits are the script kiddies. I'da thought you can atleast get that right. You release them a bunch of morons grab them. Then they cry when they are getting exploited left and right. There is no "Good way" to handle an exploit. Best way is to not release it at all or disclose it only to the companies which it affects (Microsoft) with PoC code showing it is indeed an exploit.
If the script kiddies have it, it's going to be more of a threat. That's going to make Microsoft fix it. In case you didn't notice, Microsoft has a long history of "letting things slide." Full Disclosure helps that. I'm aware of several people who tried to contact Microsoft before posting things on FD and other similar websites. Often, FD is a last resort when Microsoft will not respond or comply to their request.
And I reply, you should go read them.
Why don't you read them? They looked like completely relevant articles. If you don't like them, why don't you search google for yourself?
What? Linux wiping windows off the face of the earth? That'll be the day. KDE? Simple? Naah. I'd rather not have Kmyapplicationnamehere infront of anything for a Windows look alike (and according to you a Mac look alike) when I can get the real deal.
Warrior, there you go again. You're taking things out of context. I said Linux
is not trying to wipe Windows off the face of the Earth. God, if you're not going to read the entire thing and use it in the context that it is obviously intended to be in, don't reply. What's wrong with calling things names that begin with a "K?" Mac puts "i" at the beginning of everything. It's a convention, there's nothing wrong with that. Who cares if it looks like Windows?
Whoopty do, withought Vista or Windows for that matter you'd be using VESA, some crappy NIC card, and craptastic ports of code based on loosely documented PDF's. Of course I wouldn't expect you to understand that since you think OSDev is a waste of time, yet you support the development of the Linux kernel. Against or with it, make up your mind.
@ink: You're getting annoying, either post something which actually argues a point or leave the topic -- now you're just taking snipes at windows and picking apart small parts of replies. In other words: Go fuck yourself.
You asked me to find an OS that ran as many drivers as Vista. Stop trailing off of the subject to avoid the argument that
you made.
How can you prove that this is how things would be without Windows? I'm fairly confident it'd be different. Just because I don't like coding OS' doesn't mean I don't understand how they work. Sure, my understanding may not be as deep as yours, but that's a decision I have purposefully made. I don't think coding OS' is a valid cause. There are tons of OS' out there that are multitudes better than the one you're working on, so what's the point of working on it? I can read documentation on how memory is allocated without programming in ASM for two weeks. Once again, Warrior: stop taking things out of context.
Perhaps he's not as willing to waste his time arguing with you? Personally, I think his replies make perfect sense. Just because he didn't reply to your entire message doesn't mean that his argument isn't worth retorting. I thought it was a perfectly good attack at Windows.
No, I'm supplying my attacks with arguments while you on the other hand, havn't said something useful in a while. Now either get your shit together and say something which is worth my time or don't respond at all. Plain and simple.
No, you're saying that. Most of his posts have been useful. Just because they've been short, you've refused to reply to them. That's your fault, not his.
