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Quote from: Sidoh on March 09, 2006, 11:36:54 pmQuote from: iago on March 09, 2006, 11:31:28 pmThe argument isn't directly about what you're talking about in this thread, but it's taking the same mindset to a logical extreme. It really isn't all that different, but you already know that. Haha, yeah. I definitely agree we need to mind the way nature reacts to what we do. We need to find other sources of energy (possibly something other than fusion reactions! ), be better about recycling our waste, etc. However, I also believe that people need to take a break. The latter point has little to do with the former, but I think it's important everyone "treats" themself to a break once in a while.You're certainly right. Everybody deserves a break. (Have a break, have a Kit Kat! They paid me to say that...). But is it right to pay many people a low (often, I hear, lower-than-legal) wage to do work, taking it away from other people, is the right way to "treat yourself"? If everybody started hiring workers like that, the world would be shittier place. And that's the problem. This reminds me of that South Park where the future-people came and started taking jobs, working for pennies. Stan's dad (Randy) said it was ok, and pretty much what you said. Then one of them took his job as a geologist for pennies. He was pissed off. I think it ended up as a gay orgy or something...
Quote from: iago on March 09, 2006, 11:31:28 pmThe argument isn't directly about what you're talking about in this thread, but it's taking the same mindset to a logical extreme. It really isn't all that different, but you already know that. Haha, yeah. I definitely agree we need to mind the way nature reacts to what we do. We need to find other sources of energy (possibly something other than fusion reactions! ), be better about recycling our waste, etc. However, I also believe that people need to take a break. The latter point has little to do with the former, but I think it's important everyone "treats" themself to a break once in a while.
The argument isn't directly about what you're talking about in this thread, but it's taking the same mindset to a logical extreme. It really isn't all that different, but you already know that.
So, what do they do? They come to America to make the wages set for things that are more expensive. They save the money, go back to Mexico and live like an American.
You're certainly right. Everybody deserves a break. (Have a break, have a Kit Kat! They paid me to say that...). But is it right to pay many people a low (often, I hear, lower-than-legal) wage to do work, taking it away from other people, is the right way to "treat yourself"? If everybody started hiring workers like that, the world would be shittier place. And that's the problem. This reminds me of that South Park where the future-people came and started taking jobs, working for pennies. Stan's dad (Randy) said it was ok, and pretty much what you said. Then one of them took his job as a geologist for pennies. He was pissed off. I think it ended up as a gay orgy or something...
Quote from: iago on March 09, 2006, 11:40:00 pmYou're certainly right. Everybody deserves a break. (Have a break, have a Kit Kat! They paid me to say that...). But is it right to pay many people a low (often, I hear, lower-than-legal) wage to do work, taking it away from other people, is the right way to "treat yourself"? If everybody started hiring workers like that, the world would be shittier place. And that's the problem. This reminds me of that South Park where the future-people came and started taking jobs, working for pennies. Stan's dad (Randy) said it was ok, and pretty much what you said. Then one of them took his job as a geologist for pennies. He was pissed off. I think it ended up as a gay orgy or something...No, I don't think it's the "right way to treat yourself." In fact, I'm pretty strongly against it.Haha, that's one of the few South Park episodes I have seen.DEY TEK ER JEBS!!!!
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Rasicm works both ways. Before you can get along, one side has to start being nice to the other. I hear Mexicans get called names by people all the time. Hating them just makes the problem worse.
Quote from: iago on March 10, 2006, 10:48:47 amRasicm works both ways. Before you can get along, one side has to start being nice to the other. I hear Mexicans get called names by people all the time. Hating them just makes the problem worse. Yup, I also hear people bad-mouting Aboriginal Indians too.
Quote from: Blaze on March 10, 2006, 11:21:01 amQuote from: iago on March 10, 2006, 10:48:47 amRasicm works both ways. Before you can get along, one side has to start being nice to the other. I hear Mexicans get called names by people all the time. Hating them just makes the problem worse. Yup, I also hear people bad-mouting Aboriginal Indians too. That's different. They deserve it! Actually, I'm the first to admit that there is a serious problem that they have little control over. But that's another story that I've already posted somewhere around here before. It comes down to the fact that they're given tons of free money and asked to work anyways.
Rasicm works both ways. Before you can get along, one side has to start being nice to the other.