Immigration Protest.

[ZeroX]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11442705/

I think this is total bullshit personally. I think they should have started this up a long time ago but since nobody wanted to work those dead end jobs they allowed the illegal immigrants to be here for so long. Probally southern Cal got the head of it since their is alot of Hispanics here. Newby, Towelie, and I have had Mexicans walk out of school for the past 2 days protesting with mexican flags. In some parts of the County I heard that people where trying to beat up cops? WTF I hope these bills get past and send them all back.

[Newby]

As far as I know, if this bill passes they are felons, which means jail time. Which means our tax dollars help them out either way in this situation (we pay for their housing in jail / we pay for their care that they get under the constitution)

I think that since they aren't technically legal citizens, they have no protection under the constitution.

We should strip them of all their clothes, beat them with whips, throw acid on them, corral them into little taxis, and drive them back over the border.

They won't come back.

Though, this is really loss loss. Fuck spics. It was so nice with so many wetbacks missing from school.

[ZeroX]

It was so nice with so many wetbacks missing from school.

The only good thing about this week.

[leet_muffin]

Probally southern Cal got the head of it since their is alot of Hispanics here. Newby, Towelie, and I have had Mexicans walk out of school for the past 2 days protesting with mexican flags.

muffin too. =(

Honestly, the whole border problem, as well as everyone's response to it, is quite rediculas. Take action or don't. Part of America's supposed greatness is it's simplicity and encouragement to become a LEGAL immigrant to America. There's really no reason, illegal substances and businesses aside, for any bean to cross the boarder illegally, and it's not like we are trying to take that away from them. A felony just doesn't do it for me. While I accept that this is a step in the right direction, I think that someone should open their fucking eyes and realize that these illegals don't care about any fucking felony, misdemeanor, or slap on the knuckles, and that we need something much stronger if we have any hopes of no more illegals. Half the beaners protesting don't even know what they are protesting for, such as this one in my 6th period class, who could not give me anything near an acceptable answer as to why they were protesting. I was amazed. Do they all think it's just another fucking one of Mexico's numerous parade days where we all stand around and yell "viva la mexico", or what?

"SI SE PUEDE"   
me: (with AR-15 firing into crowd) "No se puede."

[rabbit]

Our economy will go strait to hell if the bills pass.  End of input.

[leet_muffin]

Our economy will go strait to hell if the bills pass.  End of input.

fuck, I forgot to mention economy, my biggest issue. /sign

EDIT: FUCK MY LIFE!

I meant to say that the economy would be fucked over if the immigrants were allowed to work here... (i.e. "“As we debate the immigration issue, we must remember there are hardworking individuals, doing jobs that Americans will not do, who are contributing to the economic vitality of our country,” Bush said Saturday in his weekly radio address." from the above NBC link.)

Honestly one of the worst ideas I've heard.
flow of money: dumb white person on welfare < --- America ----> Mexican ---> mexico

both the mexican and the person one welfare are unproducing members of society, meaning that all the money would be, more or less, disappearing into a.) high profit organizations b.) mexico.

sounds dumb to me. not to bush, though.

[AntiVirus]

Our economy will go strait to hell if the bills pass.  End of input.

Why?   

I would think that it would cause something like adaptive radiation.  Once they are gone we can get some of the American Bums off their asses and start working.  Make some other law that forces them to work.

But I don't really know much about this part of the topic, so please explain as to why you think that.

[ZeroX]

Our economy will go strait to hell if the bills pass.  End of input.

Why?   

I would think that it would cause something like adaptive radiation.  Once they are gone we can get some of the American Bums off their asses and start working.  Make some other law that forces them to work.

But I don't really know much about this part of the topic, so please explain as to why you think that.

Becuase no intelgent White American would be doing the type of jobs that Illegal Immagerts do for the Pennies.

[xex]

As far as I know, if this bill passes they are felons, which means jail time. Which means our tax dollars help them out either way in this situation (we pay for their housing in jail / we pay for their care that they get under the constitution)

I think that since they aren't technically legal citizens, they have no protection under the constitution.

We should strip them of all their clothes, beat them with whips, throw acid on them, corral them into little taxis, and drive them back over the border.

They won't come back.

Though, this is really loss loss. Fuck spics. It was so nice with so many wetbacks missing from school.

Are you saying that because you hate hispanics? If your inputes is because of racistsm that's wrong. The law doesn't just states that it's just hispanics it's pretty much everyone who wasn't borned here in the US. Everyone here started out here as an immgrant at one point. I'll agreed that some should be gone due to criminals record and other things that wouldn't help the encomony, but what about those who does? Hispanic are the one who does most of the jobs other people doesn't do, cutting grass,
washing dishes, etc. They're here to start a better life as everyone else did, not everyone else does, so for you newby to make that comment, you're just a racist fuck.

[Blaze]

Where the hell were the suicide bombers!  Hello Mr. Perfect Opportunity..

[AntiVirus]

Our economy will go strait to hell if the bills pass.  End of input.

Why?   

I would think that it would cause something like adaptive radiation.  Once they are gone we can get some of the American Bums off their asses and start working.  Make some other law that forces them to work.

But I don't really know much about this part of the topic, so please explain as to why you think that.

Becuase no intelgent White American would be doing the type of jobs that Illegal Immagerts do for the Pennies.

I know, that's why I said bums.

[Warrior]

Where the hell were the suicide bombers!  Hello Mr. Perfect Opportunity..

LOL

[Newby]

Calling me a racist fuck, xex? I'm not the one who's race calls white people "crackers" or throws carrots at them for being white (see: my freshmen year of high school). Oh yeah, threatening to kill you while calling you a "white boy" at the same time. Really cool of them to come into my country and threaten me.

Did I mention they do all of this when we completely ignore them and we go on with our normal lunch routines? They seem to fit themselves in by throwing carrots at us.

I wish I could shoot one of them and make an example and set the other ones in line. But that would just provoke more violence and racial wars, seeing as how I could shoot a Mexican for being annoying and the spics would find some way to turn it around on being the white man putting Mexicans down.

I'm sorry, if they aren't being racist, I don't know what racism is.

xex, the bill states "illegal immigrants".

Why should illegal immigrants be given legal rights in this country? I don't give a fuck if you come to this country to better your life, it doesn't justify why they are here illegally.

Here's a definition of illegal: http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3a%20illegal

[ZeroX]

Calling me a racist fuck, xex? I'm not the one who's race calls white people "crackers" or throws carrots at them for being white (see: my freshmen year of high school). Oh yeah, threatening to kill you while calling you a "white boy" at the same time. Really cool of them to come into my country and threaten me.

Did I mention they do all of this when we completely ignore them and we go on with our normal lunch routines? They seem to fit themselves in by throwing carrots at us.

I wish I could shoot one of them and make an example and set the other ones in line. But that would just provoke more violence and racial wars, seeing as how I could shoot a Mexican for being annoying and the spics would find some way to turn it around on being the white man putting Mexicans down.

I'm sorry, if they aren't being racist, I don't know what racism is.

xex, the bill states "illegal immigrants".

Why should illegal immigrants be given legal rights in this country? I don't give a fuck if you come to this country to better your life, it doesn't justify why they are here illegally.

Here's a definition of illegal: http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3a%20illegal

True that. My freashman year I got alot worst though.

[Quik]

I've had people of latino heritage walk out of classes recently, it's obnoxiously rude to the professor and peers. It seems like an excuse to leave classes rather than a real protest, incited by local radio stations for the most part.  The numbers of 'protesters' mearly exemplifies the out-of-control situation involving illegal immigrants. Oh, the irony.

[rabbit]

Our economy will go strait to hell if the bills pass.  End of input.

Why?   

I would think that it would cause something like adaptive radiation.  Once they are gone we can get some of the American Bums off their asses and start working.  Make some other law that forces them to work.

But I don't really know much about this part of the topic, so please explain as to why you think that.

Americans won't do those jobs for any pay.  Farms hire illegals and migrant workers to do the jobs because they work for very little and work hard.  Americans would rather collect welfare (which they do) than do the menial jobs.  If the illegals and migrant workers were "removed" from the workforce, many businesses would not be able to afford to keep running.

Since the migrants work for about $2/hour (around here, at least), prices stay low.  If businesses had to start paying minimum wage ($5.15 IIRC), prices would more than double.  Additionally, most of these jobs would have to have VERY high wages to entice Americans to do the work, which would send prices through the roof.

[MyndFyre]

Americans won't do those jobs for any pay.  Farms hire illegals and migrant workers to do the jobs because they work for very little and work hard.  Americans would rather collect welfare (which they do) than do the menial jobs.  If the illegals and migrant workers were "removed" from the workforce, many businesses would not be able to afford to keep running.

Since the migrants work for about $2/hour (around here, at least), prices stay low.  If businesses had to start paying minimum wage ($5.15 IIRC), prices would more than double.  Additionally, most of these jobs would have to have VERY high wages to entice Americans to do the work, which would send prices through the roof.

I think you're guessing at that.  I know for sure that many of the guys we hire to do construction work, for instance, work for well over minimum wage.  And I'm pretty sure an American would jump at the chance to do even menial work for, say, $15 an hour.

Plus, you're assuming that the only cost of goods would be labor.  There's profit made by the owners of the means of production - profits cut will keep prices down.  Do you *really* think that $3 item at Wal-Mart costs $2.89 to make?  More like $0.29.

[igimo1]

Our economy will go strait to hell if the bills pass.  End of input.

Why?   

I would think that it would cause something like adaptive radiation.  Once they are gone we can get some of the American Bums off their asses and start working.  Make some other law that forces them to work.

But I don't really know much about this part of the topic, so please explain as to why you think that.

Becuase no intelgent White American would be doing the type of jobs that Illegal Immagerts do for the Pennies.

They work for minimum wage, and I know a lot of teenagers who would be willing to work for minimum wage. Quit acting like a tool.

[AntiVirus]

Americans won't do those jobs for any pay.  Farms hire illegals and migrant workers to do the jobs because they work for very little and work hard.  Americans would rather collect welfare (which they do) than do the menial jobs.  If the illegals and migrant workers were "removed" from the workforce, many businesses would not be able to afford to keep running.

Since the migrants work for about $2/hour (around here, at least), prices stay low.  If businesses had to start paying minimum wage ($5.15 IIRC), prices would more than double.  Additionally, most of these jobs would have to have VERY high wages to entice Americans to do the work, which would send prices through the roof.

I think you're guessing at that.  I know for sure that many of the guys we hire to do construction work, for instance, work for well over minimum wage.  And I'm pretty sure an American would jump at the chance to do even menial work for, say, $15 an hour.

Plus, you're assuming that the only cost of goods would be labor.  There's profit made by the owners of the means of production - profits cut will keep prices down.  Do you *really* think that $3 item at Wal-Mart costs $2.89 to make?  More like $0.29.

Yay for slave labor. -.-;;;

[GameSnake]

Saying Mexicans will do jobs that americans won't is RASCIST. They will just soak up the blue collar man's economy.

[MyndFyre]

Saying Mexicans will do jobs that americans won't is RASCIST. They will just soak up the blue collar man's economy.

OK, tell that to Vicente Fox.  In his words, "We'll do the work that the BLACKS won't even do!"

[AntiVirus]

Saying Mexicans will do jobs that americans won't is RASCIST. They will just soak up the blue collar man's economy.

I don't see how that is racist..  IF anything it would be sterotypical to say that, but all sterotypes are based off of fact.  So the fact of the matter is; illegal Mexican WILL do the work that an American will not do.  Thus the way of the world.

[MyndFyre]

all sterotypes are based off of fact

Uhhh...?  You mean, like the one about people with "virus" in their name being gay?

[zorm]

Interestingly enough, how many of these mexicans that you know working at these places are actually illegal immigrants? Most the mexicans that I've seen/know of are infact legal and I suspect this is true for a large chunk of them. Afterall you do hear about them picking up illegals at places like Walmart but never in the amounts to make you think the economy would come crashing down should all the illegals be forced out.

I suspect the area where you'd find the most of these sorts of people would be the ones who just work on farms since they get paid with cash and don't have to worry about worker status.

[AntiVirus]

all sterotypes are based off of fact

Uhhh...?  You mean, like the one about people with "virus" in their name being gay?

Ooh not nice.

*emo tear*

[MyndFyre]

Interestingly enough, how many of these mexicans that you know working at these places are actually illegal immigrants? Most the mexicans that I've seen/know of are infact legal and I suspect this is true for a large chunk of them. Afterall you do hear about them picking up illegals at places like Walmart but never in the amounts to make you think the economy would come crashing down should all the illegals be forced out.

I suspect the area where you'd find the most of these sorts of people would be the ones who just work on farms since they get paid with cash and don't have to worry about worker status.

I don't know about where you live, but Arizona (where I live) has about 500,000 illegal immigrants - that's 12% of the state's overall population!

Ooh not nice.

*emo tear*

Just making a point.

[AntiVirus]

Interestingly enough, how many of these mexicans that you know working at these places are actually illegal immigrants? Most the mexicans that I've seen/know of are infact legal and I suspect this is true for a large chunk of them. Afterall you do hear about them picking up illegals at places like Walmart but never in the amounts to make you think the economy would come crashing down should all the illegals be forced out.

I suspect the area where you'd find the most of these sorts of people would be the ones who just work on farms since they get paid with cash and don't have to worry about worker status.

I don't know about where you live, but Arizona (where I live) has about 500,000 illegal immigrants - that's 12% of the state's overall population!

Ooh not nice.

*emo tear*

Just making a point.

It would of been a better point if it was actually a sterotype.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype
And seeing that you are not a group, it's just an opinion.  So that wasn't a very good point.

[Ergot]

Make a strawberry picking machine and say bye bye to Mexicans.
But uhh, my opinion is that there are already laws for immigration why make them harsher? Besides we all know that lots of them work for far less than minimum wage. Thus, it keeps produce prices pretty low. No one want to play $2 per strawberry (Exaggerated). Go see that one movie "A Day Without A Mexican". White men can't farm >.

[Towelie]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11442705/

I think this is total bullshit personally. I think they should have started this up a long time ago but since nobody wanted to work those dead end jobs they allowed the illegal immigrants to be here for so long. Probally southern Cal got the head of it since their is alot of Hispanics here. Newby, Towelie, and I have had Mexicans walk out of school for the past 2 days protesting with mexican flags. In some parts of the County I heard that people where trying to beat up cops? WTF I hope these bills get past and send them all back.

I didn't notice it because no mexicans are in my classes ( I have honors/AP classes, which they are too stupid to take) . So, I am generally not bothered by them, as I stay away from them during break/lunch.

[MyndFyre]

It would of been a better point if it was actually a sterotype.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype
And seeing that you are not a group, it's just an opinion.  So that wasn't a very good point.

A stereotype is a belief about a group.  Whatever moron at Wikipedia thinks that it needs to be held by a group is just plain wrong.

Besides, people in Arizona think that people with a name derived from "Virus" are gay.  So there are your arbitrary requirements fulfilled. 

The point was, that not all stereotypes are based on fact.  You explicitly said that.  Some are just flat-out wrong.

[xex]

Calling me a racist fuck, xex? I'm not the one who's race calls white people "crackers" or throws carrots at them for being white (see: my freshmen year of high school). Oh yeah, threatening to kill you while calling you a "white boy" at the same time. Really cool of them to come into my country and threaten me.

Did I mention they do all of this when we completely ignore them and we go on with our normal lunch routines? They seem to fit themselves in by throwing carrots at us.

I wish I could shoot one of them and make an example and set the other ones in line. But that would just provoke more violence and racial wars, seeing as how I could shoot a Mexican for being annoying and the spics would find some way to turn it around on being the white man putting Mexicans down.

I'm sorry, if they aren't being racist, I don't know what racism is.

xex, the bill states "illegal immigrants".

Why should illegal immigrants be given legal rights in this country? I don't give a fuck if you come to this country to better your life, it doesn't justify why they are here illegally.

Here's a definition of illegal: http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3a%20illegal

Haha, you're crying about that? You can't even compare the thing a white folk did to the black folk back in the days, but that's not the fucking problem! Not everyone is like that and I understand that you hate them for that. People act differently in different area, but you're being overall racist to the whole race for little kid in your community and that isn't right.  As for them calling yall crackers, it's the same thing as you're calling them beaners makes no different but just racial slurs, and not everyone is like that. Techinally the have never came into your country! The US wasn't always liked it is today, native americans had lived on this very land today, and the european had invaded and toke over. Everyone just want to move on from the bad thing and try to make a good living, that's all, vice-versa, if the european was never able to invade north america, and the native americans was able to defend themself and none of this would happen, we would be the immgrant today! I'm not saying that illegeal immgrants sould stay here and such because that's our tax money, what I'm trying to get to you is that not everyone is like what you had said, they're just trying to live like you. Saying you don't give a fuck about them, if you turn this around, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want them to say that to you.

As for you quik, not everyone's like that either, I'm sure that 40% of them just didn't want to be in school. But for those who had a reason to be in a protest you have to understand that they're just kids and want to get a point accross.

[CrAz3D]

MY Views:
#1) We ought to get some sort of worker program into place.  I dont want to pick no fucking strawberry, let them do it.  But I want to make sure they have car insurance & pay some sort of taxes otherwise they become a burden
#2) Damn kids, they're only in this to get out of class
#3) If they really want support them damn protesters would be doing it with the American flag...if you fly the flag of mexico while in my country claiming to be mexican & not american, well you better WAKE THE FUCK UP before some black guy beats your ass (I saw that on the news, I laughed)
#4) Dont want to be a felon?  Then apply for citizenship or get the fuck out you dipshit!  How fuckin retarded are you?
#5) CrAz3D for President!  20.....52?

who agrees with a worker program?  I think that be best.

 

[ZeroX]

As for you quik, not everyone's like that either, I'm sure that 40% of them just didn't want to be in school. But for those who had a reason to be in a protest you have to understand that they're just kids and want to get a point accross.

My History told me today she saw a poll that stated 89% to 92% didnt know what they where protesting about and just wanted to leave school. And for the other 10% are not even 18 yet so they dont even have a vote.

In some parts of San Deigo now they are canceling senor prom and senor events due to the mainy people walking off campus. If I was a senor I be pissed off. Why should the whole school suffer for one race and you cant agrue that other races are involed. Only Hispanics.

[AntiVirus]

It would of been a better point if it was actually a sterotype.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype
And seeing that you are not a group, it's just an opinion.  So that wasn't a very good point.

A stereotype is a belief about a group.  Whatever moron at Wikipedia thinks that it needs to be held by a group is just plain wrong.

Besides, people in Arizona think that people with a name derived from "Virus" are gay.  So there are your arbitrary requirements fulfilled. 

The point was, that not all stereotypes are based on fact.  You explicitly said that.  Some are just flat-out wrong.

Hrmm.. I suppose  I did say *all*.  My bad.

[GameSnake]

I just have a personal contribution to add to all of this. First I am NOT rascist, I am just sick of this job market. Just the other day I was applying for part time work at a Dollar General, I was told they weren't hiring. Today I see a mexican working the job I applied for. West Michigan's MAJOR economy is farming. What do farmers wanna hire? Mexicans! They hire cheap labor, give cheap housing and say "no" to hard working boys like myself who can do the same work the mexicans are doing.
I can't find a job because the company/farmer prefers mexicans.

[Hitmen]

I don't know much about illegal immigration in other places, but while mexicans might be a problem over there, brazillians are a huge problem here. I live in a large town (~60,000 people) and there are supposedly an estimated 5,000-10,000 illegal immigrants living here, the vast majority from brazil. That's a lot of freakin boarder hoppers for one town.

And trying my best not to be racist, I have to say that they can at the very least be a nuisence. A stack of illegals live across the street from me, and they love to be rediculously loud in the middle of the night, but aren't terrible compared to a lot of them. Last time brazil won the soccer world cup it was impossible to drive through downtown. I can understand being happy and celebrating, but this isn't fucking rio de janeiro, celebrate if you want but keep that shit in your homes. When you start affecting the rest of the town you're going to far.
</venting pent up rage>

[Newby]

Today they were protesting on the streets and leaving school. Someone needs to pull a holocaust on their asses.

[deadly7]

Today they were protesting on the streets and leaving school. Someone needs to pull a holocaust on their asses.

Why can't we just do what we did with Japan and nuke them?

[Newby]

Because we (the good legal citizens of the U.S.) would get hurt too.

[ZeroX]

These are pictures I took yesterday at my school. "Fucking Mexicans"

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5103/mvc095f6fa.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2931/mvc096f2bz.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6508/mvc020f0it.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3824/mvc021f4tx.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4119/mvc022f8bn.jpg



I ask some friends of mine what they thought about the situation. 'nuff said.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/339/mvc098f0ps.jpg

[CrAz3D]

#1) Fucking deport all those damn kids, they're just in it to get the fuck out of school.
#2) WAVE THE AMERCIAN FLAG YOU ASS HOLES!...you might get some support then (support you wouldn't have to steal from people that pay you're god damn way through life)
#3) WTF is with your friend wear woman pants?...

[AntiVirus]

These are pictures I took yesterday at my school. "Fucking Mexicans"

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5103/mvc095f6fa.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2931/mvc096f2bz.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6508/mvc020f0it.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3824/mvc021f4tx.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4119/mvc022f8bn.jpg



I ask some friends of mine what they thought about the situation. 'nuff said.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/339/mvc098f0ps.jpg

You have a little scence kid as a friend, that's funny.

Anyways, I would have to agree with the majority.  Get the fuckers out of the US.  If they want to go wave their flag in our face then I am going to wave a gun in theirs.  Fuck them, fuck mexican pride, if they were proud to be Mexican they would go back to their fucking homeland, Mexico. 

*sigh* They are not very bright.

[Newby]

NOW you know why I hate the Mexicans who are protesting, xex. LOOK AT THEM. That's un FUCKING necessary.

Essentially the same thing happened yesterday and is supposed to be worse tomorrow...

[ZeroX]

Pfft some mexican saw me doing this and he wanted to fight me today. LOL I roll his fat ass down a hill.

[Armin]

The only thing that pisses me off, is that Mexicans come here for a better life, then they bring their flags and run around with it. If they want to be in the US so much, they shouldn't constantly talk down upon Americans, and they shouldn't come here with their Mexican pride (Mexican as in comming from the country Mexico, not their race). If Mexico is so bad, they shouldn't come here with with pride in Mexico. American gave them a better chance (the legals, and sometimes the illegals as well), and they do what they do. It's just like if you take a bum off the street to live in your house if they help do some work, yet they talk crap about you behind their back. Not only that, they're proud of how they used to live on the streets? A bunch of ungrateful bastards if you ask me.

[ZeroX]

then they bring their flags and run around with it.

Then the schools say we cant bring ours. LOL

[MyndFyre]

Everyone here started out here as an immgrant at one point.

No, not everyone started out here as an immigrant.  I was born here in the United States.  I'm pretty sure there's no way that that makes me an immigrant.  Ever.

Hispanic are the one who does most of the jobs other people doesn't do, cutting grass, washing dishes, etc.

So does the 12-year-old kid down the street who wants to buy that shiny new bike.  Or that guy who came here illegally as a child who's getting his Master's in Neurobiology, he's *definitely* doing jobs that the white people won't do.

I've had people of latino heritage walk out of classes recently, it's obnoxiously rude to the professor and peers. It seems like an excuse to leave classes rather than a real protest, incited by local radio stations for the most part.

Very true.  I don't know anyone in my college classes who left.  It's just the high school kids.  You know here in Arizona we had 20,000 people last week clogging our streets?  They're expecting over 100,000 next week.  And a good friend of mine whose family immigrated here legally from Mexico is putting together a rally *against* the illegals.

Haha, you're crying about that? You can't even compare the thing a white folk did to the black folk back in the days, but that's not the fucking problem!

No, it's not the fucking problem.  I wasn't a slave owner, and I didn't go tar and feather or hang or do any other shit like that to black people.  There is no fucking reason I should be held accountable for it.

The US wasn't always liked it is today, native americans had lived on this very land today, and the european had invaded and toke over.

I'm sorry for having parents and grandparents from Europe.  But I have news for you: none of my family came here and killed all the Indians.  So again, how are you going to hold me accountable for it?  I'm just as much a victim of circumstance as the illegal children are.

I can't find a job because the company/farmer prefers mexicans.

Or maybe because they prefer people who don't get high.

#2) WAVE THE AMERCIAN FLAG YOU ASS HOLES!...you might get some support then (support you wouldn't have to steal from people that pay you're god damn way through life)

I assume you've heard about the Colorado school that doesn't allow flag-themed clothes to be worn, the San Diego school that is completely banning all American flags, and the Apache Junction High School student coming up on arson charges for burning a Mexican flag that was hung over the Junior ROTC building?

[CrAz3D]

I know you're not supposed to put the flag on stuff to sell & make a profit, but I doubt that is why Colorado is banning the flag clothing.  Why are they?
Any idea what San Diego is banning flags from their schools?
I can understand burning something on school grouns arson...sort of.

[CrAz3D]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060401/ap_on_re_us/immigration_flag_ban
Mary Mother of Jesus!
I don't like the bannning of anything, generally, that's against the 1st God blessed Amendment!  I ESPECIALLY don't like it when fuckers ban the American Flag!

WHAT HELL LONGMONT, COLORADO!?...I guess someone needs to shove their red, white, & blue shoe your ass for you to see the light.
Hell, here in NEW fucking Mexico I haven't seen one God damned protest...that's cause we've got the REAL illegal immigrants who don't really give a fuck, they're here illegally & they'll just come right back over once sent to Mexico...it ain't too long of a walk.

I didn't find anything much about San Diego

[MyndFyre]

I know you're not supposed to put the flag on stuff to sell & make a profit, but I doubt that is why Colorado is banning the flag clothing.  Why are they?
Any idea what San Diego is banning flags from their schools?

It's "offensive."

I can understand burning something on school grouns arson...sort of.

Technically speaking it is arson.  But a LOT of people think the kid was justified.

[CrAz3D]

I know you're not supposed to put the flag on stuff to sell & make a profit, but I doubt that is why Colorado is banning the flag clothing.  Why are they?
Any idea what San Diego is banning flags from their schools?

It's "offensive."

I can understand burning something on school grouns arson...sort of.

Technically speaking it is arson.  But a LOT of people think the kid was justified.

I think it is excusable maybe, I don't know about justified.

ALSO, it isn't arson from what this legal dictionary thing says.

     
arson
n. the felony crime of intentionally burning a house or other building. The perpetrators range from mentally ill pyromaniacs to store owners hoping to get insurance proceeds. Historically, arson meant just the burning of a house, but now covers any structure. A death resulting from arson is murder.

Also, if the flag belonged to the student I think he ought to only be prosecuted for reckless endangerment or something of that sort...do you have to have intent to commit arson?  I don't remember from my CJ class.
I'll ask about this all on friday if I can remember and we're slightly on this subject of burning crap

[MyndFyre]

Title 13 of the Arizona Revised Statutes, Chapter 17, section 13-1703:

13-1703. Arson of a structure or property; classification

A. A person commits arson of a structure or property by knowingly and unlawfully damaging a structure or property by knowingly causing a fire or explosion.

B. Arson of a structure is a class 4 felony. Arson of property is a class 4 felony if the property had a value of more than one thousand dollars. Arson of property is a class 5 felony if the property had a value of more than one hundred dollars but not more than one thousand dollars. Arson of property is a class 1 misdemeanor if the property had a value of one hundred dollars or less.

[CrAz3D]

Title 13 of the Arizona Revised Statutes, Chapter 17, section 13-1703:

13-1703. Arson of a structure or property; classification

A. A person commits arson of a structure or property by knowingly and unlawfully damaging a structure or property by knowingly causing a fire or explosion.

B. Arson of a structure is a class 4 felony. Arson of property is a class 4 felony if the property had a value of more than one thousand dollars. Arson of property is a class 5 felony if the property had a value of more than one hundred dollars but not more than one thousand dollars. Arson of property is a class 1 misdemeanor if the property had a value of one hundred dollars or less.

But what if the flag was owned by the kid burning it?  I doubt the school would have a Mexican flag.  At most he probably gets a weekend in juvy, though.  A small misdemeanor sounds alot nicer than a Class 5 Felony. 

[MyndFyre]

But what if the flag was owned by the kid burning it?  I doubt the school would have a Mexican flag.  At most he probably gets a weekend in juvy, though.  A small misdemeanor sounds alot nicer than a Class 5 Felony. 

It was owned by another student.  But screw that man, I wouldn't want to have a criminal record.  I still don't think a jury would find him guilty.

[Armin]

A class 1 misdemeanor is actually the most sevre misdemeanor there is. The lower the class is, the more sevre it is. A class 1 misdemeanor is just on the verge of being a felony.

Anyways, I really don't like some of these bullshit laws comming into effect. How can you be offended by an American flag when you're living in America? If you're offended by your our country's symbol, which is everything America stands for, you need to get the hell out right now!  Somebody needs to take the jackasses that put these law into effect and rip them from their seats of power for taking away our constitutional rights! I don't even live in Colorado and I'm pissed.

I'm pretty scared of what this country is turning into. Is the country run by a bunch of Mexicans who have more pride in Mexico and other countries than they do the country they're living in? People really piss me off.

[CrAz3D]

A class 1 misdemeanor is actually the most sevre misdemeanor there is. The lower the class is, the more sevre it is. A class 1 misdemeanor is just on the verge of being a felony.

Anyways, I really don't like some of these bullshit laws comming into effect. How can you be offended by an American flag when you're living in America? If you're offended by your our country's symbol, which is everything America stands for, you need to get the hell out right now!  Somebody needs to take the jackasses that put these law into effect and rip them from their seats of power for taking away our constitutional rights! I don't even live in Colorado and I'm pissed.

I'm pretty scared of what this country is turning into. Is the country run by a bunch of Mexicans who have more pride in Mexico and other countries than they do the country they're living in? People really piss me off.

They're not offended by the flag, its just that people are taking this thing to the extreme.  People protesting the bill are waving Mexican flags, the people in support of the bill are waving American flags, also probably in protest of the people waving Mexican flags.  Then it just escalates to where the KIDS get out of control.
They're just trying to stop these DUMBASS kids from being dumbasses, which is hard to do...I went to highschool and had to see people that went there...I know.

I'm just glad we live in a part of the country where no one is protesting this bill, if they did I'd be fine with it (as long as there were no Mexican flags...then I'd have to go Protest Warrior all over them).

[ZeroX]

I am just upset that schools are taking this type of action towards it all. I have seen so far 4 bean dips wearing a "mexican pride shirt" and I thought that they should take it down due to the new laws as well. I mean we live in the damn country. Why should we give up something as pure and beatiful as the American flag? It just pisses me off. This wouldnt happen in any other country i will tell you that. If this shit was going down in Canada Iam sure it wouldnt make it to the news becuase the stupid mother fucker protesting would be shot in the face.

[AntiVirus]

I am just upset that schools are taking this type of action towards it all. I have seen so far 4 bean dips wearing a "mexican pride shirt" and I thought that they should take it down due to the new laws as well. I mean we live in the damn country. Why should we give up something as pure and beatiful as the American flag? It just pisses me off. This wouldnt happen in any other country i will tell you that. If this shit was going down in canada Iam sure it wouldnt make it to the news becuase the stupid mother fucker protesting would be shot in the face.

Everyone in Canada are too lazy to protest.

[CrAz3D]

I am just upset that schools are taking this type of action towards it all. I have seen so far 4 bean dips wearing a "mexican pride shirt" and I thought that they should take it down due to the new laws as well. I mean we live in the damn country. Why should we give up something as pure and beatiful as the American flag? It just pisses me off. This wouldnt happen in any other country i will tell you that. If this shit was going down in canada Iam sure it wouldnt make it to the news becuase the stupid mother fucker protesting would be shot in the face.

Everyone in Canada are too lazy to protest.

HA!  I read something to the same effect on my F150 forum.  Dude says people in Canada don't give a crap about anything, they just sit there...but he still wouldn't wave an American flag (he's from West Virginia) in support of America against Canada