Azureus going commercial?

[Newby]

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/29/1344226&from=rss

Ewwwwww!

[deadly7]

Idiots.

[Sidoh]

How are they idiots?

[Warrior]

In other words, they wisened up?

[Sidoh]

Unless you're lucky, I think it's inevitable that a huge open source project eventually goes commercial.  You can't expect the entire team to live off what little revenue they recieve from donations...

[deadly7]

When this starts and they've got ads going around for independant movies or whatever, I doubt that people are really going to stick around.  And I wouldn't doubt if Azureus eventually starts paying to use their program (i.e. a $10 price tag to get a verification key or something).  Maybe I am not understanding the article right, but I think this'll sstart a downward trend for Azureus.

[Joe]

* Joe won't upgrade anymore.

[rabbit]

Pah!  I still run 1.2.

[GameSnake]

By going more commercial, they run the risk of anti-p2p targeting.

[Joe]

Way to read the article GameSnake. =)

I'm running 2.4.0.2.

[Sidoh]

When this starts and they've got ads going around for independant movies or whatever, I doubt that people are really going to stick around.  And I wouldn't doubt if Azureus eventually starts paying to use their program (i.e. a $10 price tag to get a verification key or something).  Maybe I am not understanding the article right, but I think this'll sstart a downward trend for Azureus.

Maybe in pure analyzation of number of users, but I'm sure their revenue will increase.  Frankly, I don't think they care much if people continue using their application.

[deadly7]

They will, eventually.  I doubt the ads will just be a set income, I think the ads will have some sort of spyware-like thing that has Azureus send back the number of users/visitors a month or whatever, and they'll pay Azureus back through that.  Doing it any other way would be stupid.

[Sidoh]

They will, eventually.  I doubt the ads will just be a set income, I think the ads will have some sort of spyware-like thing that has Azureus send back the number of users/visitors a month or whatever, and they'll pay Azureus back through that.  Doing it any other way would be stupid.

I don't think so.  Just because it isn't going to be open source anymore doesn't mean its going to be lower quality.  I use Opera over FireFox because I find it to be a superior product.  I don't give a rats ass that FireFox is open source and Opera isn't.  I'm all for open source, but it doesn't even become a factor when I'm choosing which product I want to use.  If one's better than the other, I'll use it.

That's not spyware.  If you think that's spyware, you may as well consider hit counters as such.

[deadly7]

Where did open source come from?

I consider it spyware if a program on my computer is reporting my usage back to it.  A hit counter is different.  They don't stay on your computer; they record your hit when you visit the website.

[Sidoh]

Where did open source come from?

What kind of question is that? ...

I consider it spyware if a program on my computer is reporting my usage back to it.  A hit counter is different.  They don't stay on your computer; they record your hit when you visit the website.

What's different about reporting to a source if/when you click an ad?  As long as it's not spying on what you're doing--unless it concerns that ad--I don't see anything wrong with it.  It seems to be exactly what I've already stated to me: a hit counter.

[wires]

Too bad Azureus sucks.  <3 uTorrent. XD

[deadly7]

What kind of question is that? ...

You know full well what I'm talking about. -.-

What's different about reporting to a source if/when you click an ad?  As long as it's not spying on what you're doing--unless it concerns that ad--I don't see anything wrong with it.  It seems to be exactly what I've already stated to me: a hit counter.

Because you don't know what else a program is sending information about.  I don't run a packet logger on myself constantly.  I shouldn't have to worry about what a program is potentially sending information about.  If it's just sending user counts, I'm fine with that.  More than likely (and this is just being based off of every other program that does this) it will send other information, like IP address and whatnot.

[Joe]

Because you don't know what else a program is sending information about.

Call me paranoid for saying this but a hit counter can find out a good deal about you. It can find your IP address easily, which can be reverse-resolved to a domain name which usually obviously states your ISP. Then you can look them up to see where they are centered at if they are a smaller company. From there, you can record who is viewing your site by a per-IP basis, or a per-ISP basis. Paranoid yet?

[Sidoh]

Call me paranoid for saying this but a hit counter can find out a good deal about you. It can find your IP address easily, which can be reverse-resolved to a domain name which usually obviously states your ISP.

Anyone who understands the internet in decent detail knows this.  It's intuitively obvious.

Then you can look them up to see where they are centered at if they are a smaller company. From there, you can record who is viewing your site by a per-IP basis, or a per-ISP basis.

It doesn't really bother me.  I'd be interested to find someone who wants to stalk people by doing reverse lookups on IP addresses harvested by a hit counter.  It's a risk I take every time I vist an unknown website... I don't really care.

Paranoid yet?

No.  I don't really care.  I could put a GD generated image in my signature that collects IP addresses.  It's just part of the internet.