Author Topic: XGL/Compiz (Read 8477 times)

SecretShop · « **on:** May 04, 2006, 02:49:24 am »

So whos running Xgl/Compiz yet, besides me ?

iago · « **Reply #1 on:** May 04, 2006, 08:05:02 am »

I'm sure not. I've been rather outspoken against 3d desktops, and I don't plan on being a hypocrite. I really do hate 3d

SecretShop · « **Reply #2 on:** May 04, 2006, 03:11:39 pm »

So the idea of taking grapics operations and moving them off the hardworking CPU to the better suited GPU is a bad idea? Seems like good design to me. Thats really what Xgl and Cairo provide, hardware acceleration for all graphics operations, not just those done in games.

iago · « **Reply #3 on:** May 04, 2006, 05:48:48 pm »

The impression I got from a superficial look at their site was that everything is rendered in 3d. If they make better use of the graphics card to render my same 2d desktop, then that's fine, I made a faulty assumption.

SecretShop · « **Reply #4 on:** May 05, 2006, 12:24:31 am »

Quote from: iago on May 04, 2006, 05:48:48 pm

The impression I got from a superficial look at their site was that everything is rendered in 3d. If they make better use of the graphics card to render my same 2d desktop, then that's fine, I made a faulty assumption.

Well Cairo is a vector graphics backend based on opengl that GTK and other 2d applications can use to render their content on the GPU as GL textures. The obvious implications of this have given way to the GUI junkies to produce desktop window managers and plugins for those that can use obscene ammounts of CPU power to produce useless yet cool looking effects on the desktop. That part is obviously questionably practical, but the ideas and reasons behind Xgl and cairo are good. Apparently even the mozilla foundation is planning to use Cairo as a render backend for its new version of Gecko so soon we should see hardware accelerated web page displays for smoother fonts and faster scrolling using less CPU. Anyhw I think its atleast interesting and should be looked at by all.

Joe · « **Reply #5 on:** May 05, 2006, 02:24:45 pm »

What does this do? Link? I might have to check it out..

Explicit · « **Reply #6 on:** May 05, 2006, 02:42:29 pm »

Quote from: Joe on May 05, 2006, 02:24:45 pm

What does this do? Link? I might have to check it out..

Try reading? Keywords: 3D and desktop. That should give you a fairly good idea of what it's about.

http://www.schoolgrounds.net/images/ss1.png

Newby · « **Reply #7 on:** May 05, 2006, 03:05:51 pm »

Quote from: Explicit[nK] on May 05, 2006, 02:42:29 pm

http://www.schoolgrounds.net/images/ss1.png

Intense.

rabbit · « **Reply #8 on:** May 05, 2006, 05:14:42 pm »

KILL IT KILL IT

iago · « **Reply #9 on:** May 05, 2006, 05:52:37 pm »

Quote from: Joe on May 05, 2006, 02:24:45 pm

What does this do? Link? I might have to check it out..

www.google.ca/search?q=xgl

deadly7 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 10, 2006, 11:49:10 pm »

While that does look pretty neat, I don't like it.

Sidoh · « **Reply #11 on:** May 10, 2006, 11:53:58 pm »

Quote from: deadly7 on May 10, 2006, 11:49:10 pm

While that does look pretty neat, I don't like it.

: \

" While that does taste pretty good, I don't think I'll ever eat it. "

Seems pretty analogous.

Ergot · « **Reply #12 on:** May 11, 2006, 12:09:40 am »

Quote from: Sidoh on May 10, 2006, 11:53:58 pm

Quote from: deadly7 on May 10, 2006, 11:49:10 pm
While that does look pretty neat, I don't like it.

: \

" While that does taste pretty good, I don't think I'll ever eat it. "

Seems pretty analogous.

Put it in terms of people... "She looks good, but I don't think I like her."

deadly7 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 11, 2006, 01:19:30 am »

Actually Ergot, there're a lot of those people in the world.

Incidentally, I mean it looks neat as in I haven't ever seen anything like that, so it's neat. I hate flashy desktop managers and stuff like that, too.

Sidoh · « **Reply #14 on:** May 11, 2006, 01:57:52 am »

Quote from: deadly7 on May 11, 2006, 01:19:30 am

Actually Ergot, there're a lot of those people in the world.

Incidentally, I mean it looks neat as in I haven't ever seen anything like that, so it's neat. I hate flashy desktop managers and stuff like that, too.

Stop using words out of context, then.

Warrior · « **Reply #15 on:** May 11, 2006, 04:16:39 pm »

I tried it. It was fun for a while but it gets annoying and it ran pretty slow on my 9600..but I blame ATi.
Pretty neat nonetheless, I think I've stated my feelings about 3D on the desktop before though..we're not ready.

deadly7 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 11, 2006, 11:29:01 pm »

Quote from: Sidoh on May 11, 2006, 01:57:52 am

Stop using words out of context, then.

How am I using it out of context? I think it's neat but I wouldn't use it. It's no different than someone else saying they like Linux running on their servers but they wouldn't use it at home.

Sidoh · « **Reply #17 on:** May 11, 2006, 11:40:00 pm »

Quote from: deadly7 on May 11, 2006, 11:29:01 pm

How am I using it out of context? I think it's neat but I wouldn't use it. It's no different than someone else saying they like Linux running on their servers but they wouldn't use it at home.

That's a terrible analogy. It's hugely different.

iago · « **Reply #18 on:** May 12, 2006, 09:24:55 am »

Quote from: Sidoh on May 10, 2006, 11:53:58 pm

Quote from: deadly7 on May 10, 2006, 11:49:10 pm
While that does look pretty neat, I don't like it.

: \

" While that does taste pretty good, I don't think I'll ever eat it. "

Seems pretty analogous.

"England looks pretty nice, but I wouldn't visit it"

You can see something without it actually being physically in front of you, it's called a photograph or screenshot.

However, you cannot taste something without being there, as far as I know.

What he said is fine, you just suck at understanding

Sidoh · « **Reply #19 on:** May 12, 2006, 03:36:34 pm »

Quote from: iago on May 12, 2006, 09:24:55 am

"England looks pretty nice, but I wouldn't visit it"

You can see something without it actually being physically in front of you, it's called a photograph or screenshot.

However, you cannot taste something without being there, as far as I know.

What he said is fine, you just suck at understanding

Quote from: deadly7 on May 10, 2006, 11:49:10 pm

While that does look pretty neat, I don't like it.

That doesn't seem contradictory to you? I think I understood it perfectly well.

Since "neat" is not objective (the word "innovative" would've been more appropriate, perhaps), I fail to see any logical reason his sequential opinions should contradict each other.

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Author Topic: XGL/Compiz (Read 8477 times)