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Microsoft does something right
« on: June 09, 2006, 04:51:04 pm »
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/09/1724239&from=rss

.. by announcing that their software is horribly broken and cannot be fixed!
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Quote from: Camel on June 09, 2009, 04:12:23 pm
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

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You might be right about that, Joe.

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Re: Microsoft does something right
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2006, 05:25:11 pm »
It's Windows 98? :\
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Re: Microsoft does something right
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2006, 05:53:33 pm »
I came *really* close to buying an IBM thinkpad with Windows 98 SE for around $200 yesterday. Not that I wouldn't buy it today, either..
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Quote from: Camel on June 09, 2009, 04:12:23 pm
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

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You might be right about that, Joe.

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Re: Microsoft does something right
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2006, 06:02:56 pm »
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well, I'll get modded down but...

MS got it wrong... "Windows 98 is so broken that it's crazy to be running it on today's Internet" For some reason this contains a "98" which came out of nowhere. It should read

"Windows is so broken that it's crazy to be running it on today's Internet"

Hahahahah.
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Quote from: CrAz3D on June 30, 2008, 10:38:22 am
I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Microsoft does something right
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2006, 07:09:45 pm »
Quote from: Newby on June 09, 2006, 06:02:56 pm
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well, I'll get modded down but...

MS got it wrong... "Windows 98 is so broken that it's crazy to be running it on today's Internet" For some reason this contains a "98" which came out of nowhere. It should read

"Windows is so broken that it's crazy to be running it on today's Internet"

Hahahahah.

For some reason, he accidentally added "on today's internet". 

It should be, "Windows is so broken that it's crazy to be running it"


And yeah, I think this is the first time that Microsoft has admitted (sort of) that they can't keep all supported versions secure.  Ha!
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Re: Microsoft does something right
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2006, 08:31:12 pm »
They're going to drop support for 98 soon, I thought they did already. Anyhow 98 is a horrible OS.

It goes like this

2000 -> Done Right
XP -> Done Well, some bad ideas and times changed
Vista -> A good attempt, but again some bad ideas and limitations
Vienna -> The revolution?

I don't know but Microsoft needs to change how it markets and distributes it's projects. I'd honestly rather have it delayed than have features cut. Vista is a really stable OS and a good upgrade to XP but honestly for their prices it's feature dry. If they would offer it perhaps $150 for Vista and maybe like $130 as an upgrade to XP I might see some reason in people getting it.

Of course, people will still own Vista however. OEMs will distribute it on their OS due to their bonds with MS being tight as glue. Microsoft will make profit regardless and with their vendor lockin techniques they plan to stay on top.

I might not necessarily agree with everything MS does but I need to point out regardless they can make some pretty decent software.
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Re: Microsoft does something right
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2006, 08:33:06 pm »
Quote from: Warrior[x86] on June 09, 2006, 08:31:12 pm
Vista -> A good attempt, but again some bad ideas and limitations
Vienna -> The revolution?

What happened to Vista being the revolution? How do we know that Vienna won't be another fuckup? :)
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Quote from: CrAz3D on June 30, 2008, 10:38:22 am
I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Microsoft does something right
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2006, 08:36:47 pm »
Quote from: Newby on June 09, 2006, 08:33:06 pm
Quote from: Warrior[x86] on June 09, 2006, 08:31:12 pm
Vista -> A good attempt, but again some bad ideas and limitations
Vienna -> The revolution?

What happened to Vista being the revolution? How do we know that Vienna won't be another fuckup? :)

Vista is a revolution in itself, although I'll admit I expected it to be better (Before they started pulling features) but it's a very nice try.

Vienna is completely rewritten, they are scrapping the current kernel. I suspect it will be all if not mostly .NET
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Re: Microsoft does something right
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2006, 08:42:06 pm »
Quote from: Warrior[x86] on June 09, 2006, 08:36:47 pm
Vista is a revolution in itself, although I'll admit I expected it to be better (Before they started pulling features) but it's a very nice try.

You did not see this coming? It's happened in nearly every OS M$ has put out.

Quote from: Warrior[x86] on June 09, 2006, 08:36:47 pm
Vienna is completely rewritten, they are scrapping the current kernel. I suspect it will be all if not mostly .NET

Eww. Ewwww. Eww! The entire thing will be in .NET? Why not just write it in Java? That way it's cross-platform! :P
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Quote from: Rule on June 30, 2008, 01:13:20 pm
Quote from: CrAz3D on June 30, 2008, 10:38:22 am
I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Microsoft does something right
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2006, 08:47:04 pm »
Quote from: Newby on June 09, 2006, 08:42:06 pm
Quote from: Warrior[x86] on June 09, 2006, 08:36:47 pm
Vista is a revolution in itself, although I'll admit I expected it to be better (Before they started pulling features) but it's a very nice try.

You did not see this coming? It's happened in nearly every OS M$ has put out.

Usually it hasn't been this bad, they are cutting them to make a deadline they could easily delay. That annoys me.

Quote from: Newby on June 09, 2006, 08:42:06 pm
Quote from: Warrior[x86] on June 09, 2006, 08:36:47 pm
Vienna is completely rewritten, they are scrapping the current kernel. I suspect it will be all if not mostly .NET

Eww. Ewwww. Eww! The entire thing will be in .NET? Why not just write it in Java? That way it's cross-platform! :P

You do know .NET will keep being upgraded and will soon have little difference over native applications. Microsoft is pushing it's C# language to the limits, .NET imho is the future.
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Re: Microsoft does something right
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2006, 09:53:03 pm »
Warrior, you know they're going to fuck it up some how, yet people will flock to it :(
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Re: Microsoft does something right
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2006, 10:12:02 pm »
It's their brilliant marketing and deals with OEMs.
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Re: Microsoft does something right
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2006, 02:54:08 am »
Quote from: Newby on June 09, 2006, 08:42:06 pm
Quote from: Warrior[x86] on June 09, 2006, 08:36:47 pm
Vienna is completely rewritten, they are scrapping the current kernel. I suspect it will be all if not mostly .NET

Eww. Ewwww. Eww! The entire thing will be in .NET? Why not just write it in Java? That way it's cross-platform! :P

A cross platform.... platform?  Then you can have like, Windows for Linux? 
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Re: Microsoft does something right
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2006, 06:27:52 am »
Quote from: iago on June 10, 2006, 02:54:08 am
Quote from: Newby on June 09, 2006, 08:42:06 pm
Quote from: Warrior[x86] on June 09, 2006, 08:36:47 pm
Vienna is completely rewritten, they are scrapping the current kernel. I suspect it will be all if not mostly .NET

Eww. Ewwww. Eww! The entire thing will be in .NET? Why not just write it in Java? That way it's cross-platform! :P

A cross platform.... platform?  Then you can have like, Windows for Linux? 

.NET is cross platform (and was written to be so)
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Re: Microsoft does something right
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2006, 10:36:17 am »
Quote from: Warrior[x86] on June 10, 2006, 06:27:52 am
Quote from: iago on June 10, 2006, 02:54:08 am
Quote from: Newby on June 09, 2006, 08:42:06 pm
Quote from: Warrior[x86] on June 09, 2006, 08:36:47 pm
Vienna is completely rewritten, they are scrapping the current kernel. I suspect it will be all if not mostly .NET

Eww. Ewwww. Eww! The entire thing will be in .NET? Why not just write it in Java? That way it's cross-platform! :P

A cross platform.... platform?  Then you can have like, Windows for Linux? 

.NET is cross platform (and was written to be so)

Newby said writing it in Java, whose main strength is cross-platformity.   A cross-platform OS makes no sense, though, hence the joke.
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