New Server

[iago]

Well, the x86 forum/site/everything is now running off a new server.  I've consolidated my systems into a single computer running VMWare. 

The specs of the system are:
- Intel CPU, 3.2ghz
- 2gb ram
- 250gb harddrive
- 8mb or so of shared video memory
- no sound

The machine is named Vetinari, who is the patrician of Ankh Morpork, and probably the more powerful person in Discworld. 

The virtual machines I have so far (there will be more) are:

Albert: database server.  Alberto Malich was the smartest and most powerful wizard on discworld.  He founded the Unseen University, which is the center of magical training on the Disc.  In an attempt to ward off death, he performed the Rite of Ashkente (a ritual to summon death) backwards.  He's never been seen since.  The reason is that instead of warding off Death, it summoned him TO Death.  in exchange for immortality, he's now Death's servant (and quite happy doing it).  I named the database server after him because of his brilliance and intelligence. 

Weatherwax: x86 web server (port 80).  Esme ("Granny") Weatherwax is probably the most powerful witch on the Disc.  She leads a coven of three witches, which reminded me of a clan, like x86. 

Carrot: forum web server (port 81).  Carrot Ironfoundersson is a human who was brought up by dwarves.  He is the rightful heir to the throne of Ankh Morpork, but he innocently pretends he doesn't know, because he doesn't want the responsibility of being a King.  He has buckets of Charisma, and everybody loves him.  He knows everybody that's going on in the city, and is friends with everybody, which is why I named the forum server after him. 

If anybody has any questions, or any problems with the new server, let me know.  Right now, all i've moved over is the forum, but there will be more later. 

[iago]

x86's website is back at http://www.x86labs.org.  If there's any problems, let me know.

[CrAz3D]

x86's website is back at http://www.x86labs.org.  If there's any problems, let me know.

wow is that undated

[Blaze]

You blew up all the themes but your new default one.  You're trying to convert us!

[iago]

All the themes point to port 80, and I totally forgot about that.  I dont' have time to fix them all right now, but I'll fix mercury. 

If somebody else wants to fix the other themes (and delete the unused themes, that would be nice), the new info is:
Apache: /usr/apache2/htdocs/forum/Themes

Besides that, just add :81 to web paths. 

[Blaze]

Yay!  Smileys are broken, but nobody really uses them do they?   

[rabbit]

There are people still not on the members' list on the main site.

[zorm]

So out of idle interest, why are you running different VMs for everything? Doesn't the overhead of having to run them out weigh the benefits?

P.S. The main site is outdated because the person who was running it got voted out of the clan. Yet ironically it still uses all my code and such.

[MyndFyre]

P.S. The main site is outdated because the person who was running it got voted out of the clan. Yet ironically it still uses all my code and such.

Either that, or we just don't care enough to keep it updated. 

[GameSnake]

Well, the x86 forum/site/everything is now running off a new server.  I've consolidated my systems into a single computer running VMWare. 

The specs of the system are:
- Intel CPU, 3.2ghz
- 2gb ram
- 250gb harddrive
- 8mb or so of shared video memory
- no sound

The machine is named Vetinari, who is the patrician of Ankh Morpork, and probably the more powerful person in Discworld. 

The virtual machines I have so far (there will be more) are:

Albert: database server.  Alberto Malich was the smartest and most powerful wizard on discworld.  He founded the Unseen University, which is the center of magical training on the Disc.  In an attempt to ward off death, he performed the Rite of Ashkente (a ritual to summon death) backwards.  He's never been seen since.  The reason is that instead of warding off Death, it summoned him TO Death.  in exchange for immortality, he's now Death's servant (and quite happy doing it).  I named the database server after him because of his brilliance and intelligence. 

Weatherwax: x86 web server (port 80).  Esme ("Granny") Weatherwax is probably the most powerful witch on the Disc.  She leads a coven of three witches, which reminded me of a clan, like x86. 

Carrot: forum web server (port 81).  Carrot Ironfoundersson is a human who was brought up by dwarves.  He is the rightful heir to the throne of Ankh Morpork, but he innocently pretends he doesn't know, because he doesn't want the responsibility of being a King.  He has buckets of Charisma, and everybody loves him.  He knows everybody that's going on in the city, and is friends with everybody, which is why I named the forum server after him. 

If anybody has any questions, or any problems with the new server, let me know.  Right now, all i've moved over is the forum, but there will be more later. 

Wow, I wish I was Albert.

[MyndFyre]

We (or at least I) seem to have some problems with the database server.  iago, please check the forum error log and see the permissions SMF needs.

[Sidoh]

So out of idle interest, why are you running different VMs for everything? Doesn't the overhead of having to run them out weigh the benefits?

No, I kind of doubt it.  Considering the stats on darkside and pie, partitioning his new server's resources is still a drastic improvement with just that considered.  I don't think any of the application servers he is running would benefit from having access to all of his server's resources.  With this, he can isolate problems much more easily and if one server starts having a problem, he can simply restore it without worrying about resetting any of his other servers.

P.S. The main site is outdated because the person who was running it got voted out of the clan. Yet ironically it still uses all my code and such.

Also because no one else has gotten the time or motivation to do it.  We have more than a few people able of updating it.  Also, I don't see how the fact it's still using your code is "ironic."

[iago]

So out of idle interest, why are you running different VMs for everything? Doesn't the overhead of having to run them out weigh the benefits?

There are a few benefits:
- Security -- I can restrict stuff better.
- Flexibility -- if I want to test something, it's easy.
- Cost -- One 3.2ghz server, and I can run just about everything at 3.2ghz (more later).
- Coolness -- it's just really cool having something powerful finally
- I can't think of a title -- I can give VMWare instances to friends and stuff.
- Experience -- This is the first time I've set up a properly controlled network. 

The odds of two of the servers both needing the CPU at the same time is low, and I don't plan to run a lot of heavy aps.  Thus, odds are that all instances will get high CPU usage most of the time. 

But yes, there is some overhead.  VMware uses a tiny bit of CPU and something like 100mb of ram.  I can survive with that, considering the benefits. 

P.S. The main site is outdated because the person who was running it got voted out of the clan. Yet ironically it still uses all my code and such.

No, it's outdated because nobody could really update it.  Now that it's on a distinct server, I'm ok with giving the entire clan the password, provided I'm backing it up just in case something happens. 

[zorm]

There are a few benefits:
- Security -- I can restrict stuff better.
- Flexibility -- if I want to test something, it's easy.
- Cost -- One 3.2ghz server, and I can run just about everything at 3.2ghz (more later).
- Coolness -- it's just really cool having something powerful finally
- I can't think of a title -- I can give VMWare instances to friends and stuff.
- Experience -- This is the first time I've set up a properly controlled network. 

The odds of two of the servers both needing the CPU at the same time is low, and I don't plan to run a lot of heavy aps.  Thus, odds are that all instances will get high CPU usage most of the time. 

But yes, there is some overhead.  VMware uses a tiny bit of CPU and something like 100mb of ram.  I can survive with that, considering the benefits.

Ah, sounds like its working out nicely for you then. I'd really like to do this actually but running one VMWare instance is hard enough. Then again I have a fourth the ram and am trying to run heavy applications like vs.net and photoshop.

Sidoh: Its ironic when you look at the reasons why I was kicked out of the clan and the fact that it still uses my code which could contain fun things like backdoors and what not :p

[iago]

Your code has been looked at by several members, so they'd probably see backdoors.

[zorm]

Your code has been looked at by several members, so they'd probably see backdoors.

Hey you never know! But yeah I don't do that sort of thing and never really have either. I still say its ironic, you all are welcome to think whatever you like.

[deadly7]

The reason you were kicked out of the clan was because you told TehUser of things that we were saying about him.  It's really just that simple.  I don't see how that's ironic at all, but ok.

[zorm]

The reason you were kicked out of the clan was because you told TehUser of things that we were saying about him.  It's really just that simple.  I don't see how that's ironic at all, but ok.

Except for the fact that I didn't tell TehUser things I let him see things. Afterwards iago refered to it like it was a security breach, which makes it the ironic part. He went so far as to remove by access to things because I was 'untrustworthy.' Oh well.

[MyndFyre]

It *was* a security breach.

[iago]

The reason you were kicked out of the clan was because you told TehUser of things that we were saying about him.  It's really just that simple.  I don't see how that's ironic at all, but ok.

Except for the fact that I didn't tell TehUser things I let him see things. Afterwards iago refered to it like it was a security breach, which makes it the ironic part. He went so far as to remove by access to things because I was 'untrustworthy.' Oh well.

No, I removed your access because I was mad at you and thought you were a jerk. 

It *was* a security breach.

This is true.

[ZeroX]

No wonder I was getting a 404 earlyer.

[iago]

We (or at least I) seem to have some problems with the database server.  iago, please check the forum error log and see the permissions SMF needs.

I don't know why SMF needs CREATE/DROP, but I think that's dumb.  I granted those to it anyways.  I also gave it the right path to the uploads/avatars directory, so uploading should once again be possible. 

If there's anything else, let me know!

[Blaze]

Install the world of warcraft mod so we can link items from the game graphically and stuff....  I'll give you a link on AIM.

[iago]

I think Sidoh tried that once, and it didn't work out

[Blaze]

I think Sidoh tried that once, and it didn't work out

Yes, I think he needed ftp access to the site, so maybe it's something you can do? 

[Sidoh]

I think Sidoh tried that once, and it didn't work out

Exactly as blaze said.  I gave up because it needed an ftp accoutn.

[deadly7]

I think Sidoh tried that once, and it didn't work out

Exactly as blaze said.  I gave up because it needed an ftp accoutn.

lol haxor his boxen stop being noob

[iago]

I think Sidoh tried that once, and it didn't work out

Yes, I think he needed ftp access to the site, so maybe it's something you can do? 

Yeah, then I said something like, "If you can find a way to do it without an FTP account, or can give me exact instructions on how to, then I'll do it"

[Joe]

1. adduser sidoh
2. visudo (add Sidoh to sudoers)
3. Tell him
4. Watch him like a hawk while he works

^_^

[Sidoh]

1. adduser sidoh
2. visudo (add Sidoh to sudoers)
3. Tell him
4. Watch him like a hawk while he works

^_^

no, SMF's addons require an ftp account.  You could probably do it without it, but it's not worth the work, in my opinion.

[Joe]

SSH can double as SFTP. Different protocol for the exact same concept.

[Sidoh]

SSH can double as SFTP. Different protocol for the exact same concept.

I know, but you're silly if you think SMF supports that.

[Joe]

Oh.. the addon itself requires it? Excuse my lack of thought. I was thinking you meant to install it. :p

[Sidoh]

Oh.. the addon itself requires it? Excuse my lack of thought. I was thinking you meant to install it. :p

Well, the installation procedure requires it.  It would require a lot more work to do it without SMF's addon features, so until iago sets up a FTP server, I doubt it's gonna happen.

[iago]

I assure you that I have no intention of setting up an FTP server, so...

[Sidoh]

I assure you that I have no intention of setting up an FTP server, so...

[Blaze]

Pffft, if iago could cp the files over... it'd be all good!

[Sidoh]

Pffft, if iago could cp the files over... it'd be all good!

It uses it to reset file permissions.  Most of the readmes for addons don't document what you're supposed to reset, so it makes it kind of difficult...

I can always try again.  Maybe I'lld o that tomorrow.

[rabbit]

Pffft, if iago could cp the files over... it'd be all good!

It uses it to reset file permissions.  Most of the readmes for addons don't document what you're supposed to reset, so it makes it kind of difficult...

I can always try again.  Maybe I'lld o that tomorrow.

grep for chmod, silly.

[Sidoh]

grep for chmod, silly.

Huh?  I know how to use chmod, but it's much, much easier to install SMF plugins with an FTP server.

[Warrior]

grep for chmod, silly.

Huh?  I know how to use chmod, but it's much, much easier to install SMF plugins with an FTP server.

or you know..through the admin panel. O.O

[Sidoh]

or you know..through the admin panel. O.O

Exactly.  I didn't see a way to not use FTP in the admin panel.  If you're aware of a way, feel free to let me know.

[Newby]

See the file: install.

That'll set file permissions fer ya.

[rabbit]

grep for chmod, silly.

Huh?  I know how to use chmod, but it's much, much easier to install SMF plugins with an FTP server.

You said you didn't know specifically what permissions the plugin/mod/whatever sets.  Using grep on its files to search for "chmod" will tell you what permissions it changes, and to what.

[Sidoh]

You said you didn't know specifically what permissions the plugin/mod/whatever sets.  Using grep on its files to search for "chmod" will tell you what permissions it changes, and to what.

Oh, right.  haha.

[Killer360]

Question:
Why do you ppl. need to rent a server when you can just buy Hosting for $10/month?
It seems rather odd, do you use it for anything else?

[Sidoh]

Question:
Why do you ppl. need to rent a server when you can just buy Hosting for $10/month?
It seems rather odd, do you use it for anything else?

Where on Earth did you get the impression that we rent a server?  iago hosts it out of his home using a DSL connection.

[iago]

Yeah, I have it at home.  I do it for many reasons:

- Educational
- Easier to maintain
- Easier to update
- Cheaper in the longrun
- If something happens, I walk to the next room
- Don't have to worry about rules / policies
- Can give limited or unlimited access to whomever I choose
- Has the OS I want, set up the way I like
- More secure (I know what I'm doing)
- Unlimited bandwidth

There are a couple downsides, though:
- Nobody to turn to for help (not applicable, I'm too smart
- Slower net speed (I don't think that's an issue)

[deadly7]

Where on Earth did you get the impression that we rent a server?  iago hosts it out of his home using a DSL connection.

I think he didn't read the first post, just the topic title.

[Sidoh]

I think he didn't read the first post, just the topic title.

The noob!

[MyndFyre]

Question:
Why do you ppl. need to rent a server when you can just buy Hosting for $10/month?
It seems rather odd, do you use it for anything else?

Hrm.  I get hosting for $5.50 a month (paid annually), but incidentally, would renting a server be pretty much the same as buying hosting on a monthly basis?      

[iago]

Question:
Why do you ppl. need to rent a server when you can just buy Hosting for $10/month?
It seems rather odd, do you use it for anything else?

Hrm.  I get hosting for $5.50 a month (paid annually), but incidentally, would renting a server be pretty much the same as buying hosting on a monthly basis?      

I think the difference is in whether or not you get your "own" server (or if it's shared with others).  That what it seems to me, anyways. 

[Killer360]

Are you using MTS, iago?

[iago]

Yes. 

ron@slayer:~$ whois 142.161.173.29

OrgName:    MTS Allstream Inc.
OrgID:      MTSAL
Address:    333 Main Street
City:       Winnipeg
StateProv:  MB
PostalCode: R3C-3V6
Country:    CA

..........

I notice that you are, too.

[Joe]

Hehe, that's not your address.

[deadly7]

Hehe, that's not your address.

Maybe, just maybe, it's where his ISP's building is located.

[iago]

Hehe, that's not your address.

Yeah, and my name isn't "MTS"

[Killer360]

I hate Shaw. That's why I chose MTS!
Also, my uncle is on the board of the comapny.
iago: Do you have MTS Extreme?

[iago]

I hate Shaw. That's why I chose MTS!
Also, my uncle is on the board of the comapny.
iago: Do you have MTS Extreme?

Shaw tried to make my parents buy a bunch of extra stuff, so she told them where to shove it.  Well, in a nice way. 

I think I have "MTS Lightening", whatever level that is.  Whatever I have, it seems to work fine so I'm not planning on changing it. 

And incidentally, which part of the city do you live in?

[Killer360]

I hate Shaw. That's why I chose MTS!
Also, my uncle is on the board of the comapny.
iago: Do you have MTS Extreme?

Shaw tried to make my parents buy a bunch of extra stuff, so she told them where to shove it.  Well, in a nice way. 

I think I have "MTS Lightening", whatever level that is.  Whatever I have, it seems to work fine so I'm not planning on changing it. 

And incidentally, which part of the city do you live in?

Charleswood.

[iago]

Charleswood.

Oh yeah, I think we talked about that before.  I'm in St James, right across the river.  Scary :-o

[Killer360]

Charleswood.

Oh yeah, I think we talked about that before.  I'm in St James, right across the river.  Scary :-o

Yeah, it is rather scary, concidering we met through some random site (stealthbot.net) or something like that I believe.
Where are you close to? Sturgeon Creek? Assinaboine Park?

[iago]

Charleswood.

Oh yeah, I think we talked about that before.  I'm in St James, right across the river.  Scary :-o

Yeah, it is rather scary, concidering we met through some random site (stealthbot.net) or something like that I believe.
Where are you close to? Sturgeon Creek? Assinaboine Park?

I'm a few blocks from Sturgeon Creek, on Hamilton.