Planning a roadtrip..

[Joe]

Alright, so over Christmas Vacation this upcoming year, I might want to go to either Mexico or Canada (probably Canada) just for the hell of it. I'm planning to apply for a lifeguarding job in Wisconsin Dells when I turn 16 (September 25th), and starting wage is about $8. I've sorted out the hours I could work and they added up to 24, so from there, simple math.

8 x 24 = $192 per week

Assuming four weeks per month, roughly, $192 x 4 = $668.

Assuming three months from the end of September to the end of December, 3 x $668 = $2004.

From there, I'd like to assume it's roughly 1000 miles from Madison to Winnipeg. At 30 miles per gallon and $3 per gallon, that'd be about $1 for 10 miles, and $100 for 1000 miles. Naturally, I have to get home too, so it'll be $200.

So after paying income taxes, which my dad said was roughly 33%, I'll have roughly $1350. Pay gas prices and have $1150. Pay insurance and have somewhat around $1000 spending money left when I'm in Canada.

Does anyone see a ridiculous error in my math, beyond the fact that I'm obviously going to spend a bit of the money I'm supposed to be saving up?

[MyndFyre]

The fact that you'd assume you can make 30mpg.  GLHF.

[Joe]

I'll be driving an Oldsmobile Intrigue 2003(?). I think it gets 25-30mpg highway, which the majority of the trip would be. Really, I just used 30 instead of 20 for easy division by 3 (I was doing this pencil-and-paper).

[TeHFoOoL]

Pay insurance and have somewhat around $1000 spending money left when I'm in Canada.

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You really need to look into that. If you're a beginning driver and you can find insurance for 150 then -please- hook me up.

[Joe]

Per month, added on to my parents plan? 80 per month, and my parents said they'd pay half. So, does $40 do it for you?

[iago]

Don't forget to subtract tax from what you earn, and add it to what you're planning to spend. 

And incidentally, right now I have more money than I know what to do with, so if somebody wants to come by for a weekend, we can have some fun

[deadly7]

Don't forget to subtract tax from what you earn, and add it to what you're planning to spend. 

And incidentally, right now I have more money than I know what to do with, so if somebody wants to come by for a weekend, we can have some fun

Apparently iago knows some good hooker hangouts.

[CrAz3D]

Cars.com says the Intrigue gets 30mpg highway
I'd figure on 25 at most just to be safe.

I assume you guys have indoor pools there?

Hit iago & his hooker money up & tap some Canadian............................






















MAPLE TREES!  To get maple syrup silly!

[iago]

We have both indoor and outdoor pools.  Tomorrow's expected high is 35C, which is 95F.  With humidex, it'll be about 42C (107F) of damp humid heat.  So outdoor pools are useful. 

[CrAz3D]

95f !?!?!?!?

It aint even supposed to be that hot here!

[deadly7]

We have both indoor and outdoor pools.  Tomorrow's expected high is 35C, which is 95F.  With humidex, it'll be about 42C (107F) of damp humid heat.  So outdoor pools are useful. 

Stupid rich canadians.

[Ergot]

We have both indoor and outdoor pools.  Tomorrow's expected high is 35C, which is 95F.  With humidex, it'll be about 42C (107F) of damp humid heat.  So outdoor pools are useful. 

Wtf? Winnipeg has extreme weather conditions! Extremely hot and extremely cold @_@! Do you ever have... pleasant weather?

[deadly7]

We have both indoor and outdoor pools.  Tomorrow's expected high is 35C, which is 95F.  With humidex, it'll be about 42C (107F) of damp humid heat.  So outdoor pools are useful. 

Wtf? Winnipeg has extreme weather conditions! Extremely hot and extremely cold @_@! Do you ever have... pleasant weather?

They're Canadians.  Nothing's cold to them.

[iago]

Yes, in spring and fall we have great weather.  But being in the dead center of the prairies with no mountains or water nearby, whatever nature feels like doing hits us hard. 

We only have really bad weather (lower than -40C/-40F or higher than 30C/86F) for a couple weeks on either side.  And right now, we're within those couple weeks on the summer side. 

[rabbit]

95f !?!?!?!?

It aint even supposed to be that hot here!

It's about 100F for most of the summer near Philly, not including humidity (there's a lot).  It's really not that bad.

[Chavo]

Alright, so over Christmas Vacation this upcoming year, I might want to go to either Mexico or Canada (probably Canada) just for the hell of it. I'm planning to apply for a lifeguarding job in Wisconsin Dells when I turn 16 (September 25th), and starting wage is about $8. I've sorted out the hours I could work and they added up to 24, so from there, simple math.

8 x 24 = $192 per week

Assuming four weeks per month, roughly, $192 x 4 = $668.

Assuming three months from the end of September to the end of December, 3 x $668 = $2004.

From there, I'd like to assume it's roughly 1000 miles from Madison to Winnipeg. At 30 miles per gallon and $3 per gallon, that'd be about $1 for 10 miles, and $100 for 1000 miles. Naturally, I have to get home too, so it'll be $200.

So after paying income taxes, which my dad said was roughly 33%, I'll have roughly $1350. Pay gas prices and have $1150. Pay insurance and have somewhat around $1000 spending money left when I'm in Canada.

Does anyone see a ridiculous error in my math, beyond the fact that I'm obviously going to spend a bit of the money I'm supposed to be saving up?

- at $192/week, your income tax will probably be at most 13-15%
 - gas is more expensive in Canada
 - plan on backtracking miles in your gas planning
 - don't forget whatever costs you may have just to make money
 - use a cooler and bring food + replenish the cooler at grocery stores, restaurants hurt a road trip budget bad
 - so do hotels, same yourself a bunch of money by going to Canada in the Summer instead when you can actually camp outside

[iago]

- gas is more expensive in Canada

Right now, you're looking at about $4.80/gallon, Canadian.

- don't forget whatever costs you may have just to make money

Gotta have the condoms

- use a cooler and bring food + replenish the cooler at grocery stores, restaurants hurt a road trip budget bad

That's the best part, but expensive.  Also, don't try to bring food over the border.

[Chavo]

Gotta have the condoms

lol...

That's the best part, but expensive.  Also, don't try to bring food over the border.

forgot about the border thing!

I'm not advocating avoiding restaurants alltogether.  I thoroughly enjoy finding unique food in new places.  I mean don't blow your budget on fast food or chain restaurants for breakfast/lunch/snacks.

I don't know what the laws are on leaving the country as a minor either so you might check into that.

[deadly7]

Right now, you're looking at about $4.80/gallon, Canadian.

So something like.. $4.20/gallon, American?  Last I remember, our currency in the US sucks. :p

Gotta have the condoms

I think you missed this post..

That's the best part, but expensive.  Also, don't try to bring food over the border.

Hah.  I brought Indian food over.  After they searched our car they were like "okay you can go"; food and all.

[Ergot]

Hah.  I brought Indian food over.  After they searched our car they were like "okay you can go"; food and all.

Because it smelled so bad.

[iago]

Right now, you're looking at about $4.80/gallon, Canadian.

So something like.. $4.20/gallon, American?  Last I remember, our currency in the US sucks. :p

CAD$4.80 = USD$4.32.  From Google.

Hah.  I brought Indian food over.  After they searched our car they were like "okay you can go"; food and all.

I don't know when that was, but they've gotten much stricter in the last couple years. 

[Ergot]

Factor in fees/comission it's about 1:1 :\

[deadly7]

Right now, you're looking at about $4.80/gallon, Canadian.

So something like.. $4.20/gallon, American?  Last I remember, our currency in the US sucks. :p

CAD$4.80 = USD$4.32.  From Google.

Hah.  I brought Indian food over.  After they searched our car they were like "okay you can go"; food and all.

I don't know when that was, but they've gotten much stricter in the last couple years. 

Yeah, it was like.. four-five years ago.

[Blaze]

You don't need a passport to get into Canada being a US Citizen, but then again, Deadly, you are brown... stop trying to blow up our prime minister!   

[Nate]

Can you be a life guard in Wisconsin in December???  Also whoever asked about cheap car insurance mine is US$24 a month.  USAA ftw

[Ergot]

You don't need a passport to get into Canada being a US Citizen, but then again, Deadly, you are brown... stop trying to blow up our prime minister!   

Yep, but I need a passport being a US Citizen to get back in the US. ;\

[dark_drake]

Just a thought, but are you not planning on driving anywhere once you get to Winnipeg?  Seriously, are you just going there and coming straight back, or do you plan to drive around and see some sites?

[rabbit]

He's Joe, what do you think?

[iago]

Well, about 100km north of Winnipeg, on Lake Winnipeg, we have (apparently) one of the nicest beaches in the world, "Grand Beach".  That's always a good destination

[Sidoh]

Can you be a life guard in Wisconsin in December??? 

Nah, Wisconsin has laws against building indoor pools.

[Warrior]

95f !?!?!?!?

It aint even supposed to be that hot here!

It's about 100F for most of the summer near Philly, not including humidity (there's a lot).  It's really not that bad.

It feels damn good, I went to Dorney for three days straight. Besides having my iPod die, my phone left at home and catching a cold the second day..there were a shitload of girls.

Dorney is like..Six Flags in my backyard. :O

[CrAz3D]

Can you be a life guard in Wisconsin in December???

Nah, Wisconsin has laws against building indoor pools.

That's crazy!
I'd think an indoor heated pool would be a decent atraction

[Sidoh]

That's crazy!
I'd think an indoor heated pool would be a decent atraction

I hope you realize that I was being sarcastic. >_>

[rabbit]

95f !?!?!?!?

It aint even supposed to be that hot here!

It's about 100F for most of the summer near Philly, not including humidity (there's a lot).  It's really not that bad.

It feels damn good, I went to Dorney for three days straight. Besides having my iPod die, my phone left at home and catching a cold the second day..there were a shitload of girls.

Dorney is like..Six Flags in my backyard. :O

Dorney blows.  It's all about WWK

[Warrior]

I went earlier in the summer, it wasn't quite open. Well it was open just no one human would go at night.

Rode Steel Force 7 times, Dominator twice, everything else twice or three times (Well not EVERY ride but every roller coaster) oh..and I got stuck on Hangtime and Steel Force once.

The steel force one was because some dumb woman pulled out a camera phone.

[Joe]

Can you be a life guard in Wisconsin in December???

I live biking distance from arguably the biggest tourist city in the Midwest, Wisconsin Dells WI. If you're wondering, I was planning to apply at The Wilderness Hotel and Golf Resort, to work with Tory and Jon (a friend from church).

Just a thought, but are you not planning on driving anywhere once you get to Winnipeg?  Seriously, are you just going there and coming straight back, or do you plan to drive around and see some sites?

Driving around, of course. Hence the thousand dollars spending money.


Also, I talked this over with Tory, and he was interested in going, so some costs will be cut in half.

[MyndFyre]

You don't need a passport to get into Canada being a US Citizen, but then again, Deadly, you are brown... stop trying to blow up our prime minister!   

I personally wouldn't go to Canada without a passport.  Good ID and verification that you ARE in fact a citizen.

[iago]

I live biking distance from arguably the biggest tourist city in the Midwest, Wisconsin Dells WI. If you're wondering, I was planning to apply at The Wilderness Hotel and Golf Resort, to work with Tory and Jon (a friend from church).

How is WI in the mid-west?  Isn't in the mid-north? 

[MyndFyre]

I live biking distance from arguably the biggest tourist city in the Midwest, Wisconsin Dells WI. If you're wondering, I was planning to apply at The Wilderness Hotel and Golf Resort, to work with Tory and Jon (a friend from church).

How is WI in the mid-west?  Isn't in the mid-north? 

I don't know, we have weird names for areas here, but sure enough it's the midwest.

[iago]

I still find it weird that Manitoba is considered "Western Canada".  Everything West of Ontario is Western Canada. 

[rabbit]

You don't need a passport to get into Canada being a US Citizen, but then again, Deadly, you are brown... stop trying to blow up our prime minister!   

I personally wouldn't go to Canada without a passport.  Good ID and verification that you ARE in fact a citizen.

Yeah.  New US laws say you have to have a passport to (re)enter the continental United States (even Hawaii->California, you need a passport).  It's weird.  It's kind of like the Conferates won!  Well, not really.

[Chavo]

I live biking distance from arguably the biggest tourist city in the Midwest, Wisconsin Dells WI. If you're wondering, I was planning to apply at The Wilderness Hotel and Golf Resort, to work with Tory and Jon (a friend from church).

How is WI in the mid-west?  Isn't in the mid-north? 

Yea, but calling Kansas a part of the "mid" just sounds funny

[MyndFyre]

I live biking distance from arguably the biggest tourist city in the Midwest, Wisconsin Dells WI. If you're wondering, I was planning to apply at The Wilderness Hotel and Golf Resort, to work with Tory and Jon (a friend from church).

How is WI in the mid-west?  Isn't in the mid-north? 

Yea, but calling Kansas a part of the "mid" just sounds funny

We call it part of the Great Plains. 

[Joe]

Incidentally, I just realized how useless my school ID is for anything not school related.

William LaFrance
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100103047
[barcode]

[Sidoh]

Incidentally, I just realized how useless my school ID is for anything not school related.

William LaFrance
9
100103047
[barcode]

It's a valid picture ID in most cases.  (Asuming it has a picture)

[Joe]

It has a picture. Basically it ties my picture to a name, but not a DOB, which I was expecting to be on there.

[Sidoh]

It has a picture. Basically it ties my picture to a name, but not a DOB, which I was expecting to be on there.

It still works as a picture ID.

[Joe]

It took you less than 30 seconds to reply. Talk about trolling.

I was going to edit, but you already replied. The picture on my ID is the one with my long hair (halfway between my avatar and my current hair) so I don't know if they'd accept that. I could also carry my middle school ID, but I've grown a bit and don't wear glasses when I'm not reading.

[Sidoh]

It took you less than 30 seconds to reply. Talk about trolling.

Trolling implies consistently negative, mood-shattering posts.

I was going to edit, but you already replied. The picture on my ID is the one with my long hair (halfway between my avatar and my current hair) so I don't know if they'd accept that. I could also carry my middle school ID, but I've grown a bit and don't wear glasses when I'm not reading.

As long as they're able to distinguish facial features in the picture, it'll still work.

[Joe]

You're shattering my mood by being right, Sidoh.

[Sidoh]

You're shattering my mood by being right, Sidoh.

QQ

[Ergot]

We use our school ID's for discount at movies.

[Joe]

QQ

You won, shattering my mood.

We use our school ID's for discount at movies.

Too bad the nearest movie place is in Wisc Dells.

[CrAz3D]

It has a picture. Basically it ties my picture to a name, but not a DOB, which I was expecting to be on there.

It still works as a picture ID.

At banks around here school IDs like that dont count, you need a state issued ID.  For good reasons too, you can put w/e name on it you want & stuff

[iago]

By working at a beer store, I have a pretty good idea of which IDs count (in Canada).  The only IDs that are worth anything are government-issued photo ID.  That's something like:
- Driver's License
- Liquor Commission card
- Native Card
- Meti Card
- Armed Forces ID
- International Student ID

I think that's all of them.  I seem to remember there being 6 on the list. 

And, if we're assholes and you need a second piece of ID, anything that the government issues:
- Birth Certificate
- SSN Card
- Medical Card
- Etc.

Regular student ID cards definitely don't count. 

[Rule]

- International Student ID

This shouldn't mean anything.  When I was in first year, half of the people I knew in res got international student IDs from the university (!), and they just lied to the person taking the photo about their age -- nothing other than a university card (which doesn't have DOB) was used to verify their identity to get the international ID!

. 

One of the reasons I think they were so slack about it was because the people in charge of dispensing the IDs were connected to some travel agency: so you get the card with the possible promise of doing business with their partners (actually the people who told me about this said to pretend you're interested in doing a year abroad using their services etc., before asking about the IDs), and they'll help you with your identity fraud.  Of course, it's an unspoken agreement, and one reason corporations should be in no way linked, (even as sponsors), to government/university proceedings.

[Hitmen]

By working at a beer store, I have a pretty good idea of which IDs count (in Canada).  The only IDs that are worth anything are government-issued photo ID.  That's something like:
- Driver's License
- Liquor Commission card
- Native Card
- Meti Card
- Armed Forces ID
- International Student ID

My mom has been working as a bartender recently. Aside from the native card/meti card which are probably some weird canada thing, and I'm not sure about the international student ID, the only other thing you can use is a passport, iirc.

[iago]

- International Student ID

This shouldn't mean anything.  When I was in first year, half of the people I knew in res got international student IDs from the university (!), and they just lied to the person taking the photo about their age -- nothing other than a university card (which doesn't have DOB) was used to verify their identity to get the international ID!

Hah, nice.  I've only seen one person try to use that, and that person was obviously an import so we accepted it. 

My mom has been working as a bartender recently. Aside from the native card/meti card which are probably some weird canada thing, and I'm not sure about the international student ID, the only other thing you can use is a passport, iirc.

Hmm, I think you're right, you can use a passport, too.  I think. 

[CrAz3D]

- International Student ID

This shouldn't mean anything.  When I was in first year, half of the people I knew in res got international student IDs from the university (!), and they just lied to the person taking the photo about their age -- nothing other than a university card (which doesn't have DOB) was used to verify their identity to get the international ID!

Hah, nice.  I've only seen one person try to use that, and that person was obviously an import so we accepted it. 

You guys import people?

I hear alot of the people that the US imports comes through Deming, NM (50 miles away from here).  We have alot of meth labs around this area too.

[iago]

Well, when I say import, I mean the person was a foreign student or on vacation or something.  She clearly wasn't North-American. 

[CrAz3D]

Well, when I say import, I mean the person was a foreign student or on vacation or something.  She clearly wasn't North-American. 

o.

we import people & sell them, we're cool like that:(

[rabbit]

By working at a beer store, I have a pretty good idea of which IDs count (in Canada).  The only IDs that are worth anything are government-issued photo ID.  That's something like:
- Driver's License
- Liquor Commission card
- Native Card
- Meti Card
- Armed Forces ID
- International Student ID

My mom has been working as a bartender recently. Aside from the native card/meti card which are probably some weird canada thing, and I'm not sure about the international student ID, the only other thing you can use is a passport, iirc.

A beard (guys) and big tits (girls) are often other valid forms of ID.  Non-officially speaking, of course.

[iago]

By working at a beer store, I have a pretty good idea of which IDs count (in Canada).  The only IDs that are worth anything are government-issued photo ID.  That's something like:
- Driver's License
- Liquor Commission card
- Native Card
- Meti Card
- Armed Forces ID
- International Student ID

My mom has been working as a bartender recently. Aside from the native card/meti card which are probably some weird canada thing, and I'm not sure about the international student ID, the only other thing you can use is a passport, iirc.

A beard (guys) and big tits (girls) are often other valid forms of ID.  Non-officially speaking, of course.

Not where I worked.  We had the policy of ID'ing anybody who we think looks 30 or younger. 

[d&q]

Would you ID him?

[CrAz3D]

Jay Leno's brother ... obviously not twins tho

[iago]

Haha no, Taylor would get away with it because he doesn't look under 30. 

[deadly7]

Who the hell's Taylor?

[iago]

The picture he posted.  Duh!

[deadly7]

Obviously.  I meant WHO IS HE.  Like, literally.

[d&q]

Taylor Hicks, American Idol winner.