Various geeky news!

[Newby]

Apple unveils the new Mac OS X Leapord. What is sad is that they claim it's the new Vista (Vista 2.0 at WWDC), yet it looks the exact same as the previous version. Vista is leaps and bounds ahead of XP in terms of looks and features.

Linus Torvalds is a fan of Visual Basic? Apparently it did more for programming than object-oriented programming did. Heh.

AMD dropping the ATi brand. Now you can brag that your processor is AMD and your graphics card is AMD as well! "omgz my amd radeon x850 xt pro roxx0rz joor nvidia".

Let's just hope they're gonna drop the horrible driver coding habits that ATi had for their graphics card, and will start coding good drivers for Windows and hopefully Linux.

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[Warrior]

Leapord will flop. It has Virtual desktops (*woo*)

[Newby]

The thing about Leapord is that it has nothing innovative or impressive. Hell, they're advertising iChat as one of the features. When you are advertising a chat program in your new OS (I don't even think M$ does that with their "new" Live Messenger) and advertising features that aren't new ("Multiple Personalities", multiple logins for multiple networks has been done (gaim), and setting your status to invisible has been done as well (gaim) (gee, the same product too, cross-platform!)) you're running out of things to advertise as selling points.

[MyndFyre]

LOL, check this out.  I liked the CodingHorror website:


LOLOLOLOL

[deadly7]

LOL, check this out.  I liked the CodingHorror website:


LOLOLOLOL

Dude, that's awesome... I want to know how they did that.

[iago]

While Vista is supposed to be flashy and feature-heavy, whereas Leopard is supposed to be slimmed down and faster.  I posted about that a long time ago. 

[Newby]

Leapord is definitely going about their advertising and campaigning the wrong way then. "Vista 2.0", "look at the widgets!!!", "iChat upgraded", "iCal added more features!" that's all useless crap that just bloats the OS IMO.

[iago]

Marketing people tend to suck, so I'm not surprised

[d&q]

I wish they would let you download the utilities seperately, instead of all of it coming with the OS.

[iago]

I wish they would let you download the utilities seperately, instead of all of it coming with the OS.

I wish Windows would, too, but that's not going to happen.

That's one thing I like about Linux/BSD over everything else -- customized installs. 

[Ergot]

I'm caught in a dilemma... I love AMD but I hate ATi... would an ATi card with AMD written on it still be just an ATi? I really like nVidia... nForce and SLi is pretty cool, pair that with Athlon X2's seems like a dream. arg .

[Sidoh]

I'm caught in a dilemma... I love AMD but I hate ATi... would an ATi card with AMD written on it still be just an ATi? I really like nVidia... nForce and SLi is pretty cool, pair that with Athlon X2's seems like a dream. arg .

I don't think that this means AMD will be any less compatable with nVidia.  When Linksys was bought by Cisco, I noticed a significant improvment in their products, but the ones I'd seen before the change were pretty old... it could have been a coincidence.

[zorm]

I wish they would let you download the utilities seperately, instead of all of it coming with the OS.

Dunno most of the stuff that comes with OSX is the best you can do or atleast from what I've seen. I guess I should rephrase that to be people use it unlike the stuff that ships with Windows which no sane person uses.

But this is just my experience from my school and they made us use IE5 for web development on OSX. It was like a crime against humanity.

[Warrior]

While Vista is supposed to be flashy and feature-heavy, whereas Leopard is supposed to be slimmed down and faster.  I posted about that a long time ago. 

Vista comes in different versions suiting the needs of the user, if you want a feature packed beast you got it. If you want a customized install, Install Home Basic and upgrade to Ultimate later.

Leapord is Mac trying to get some attention, Steve Jobs is a master of getting people hype with less than great features. It's sad when the highlight of WWDC is their Virtual Desktops and "Time Machine".

Hell, this is so bad it might make the programmers at Microsoft relax even more. I'm dissapointed in Leapord, I think SUSE 10 has a better chance against Vista. (Yes, I fell in love with SUSE 10 it's amazing)

Jesus christ.

[Newby]

According to Wired, Steve Jobs wasn't even able to hype the crowd at Leapord successfully. They pitied him and clapped randomly.

SuSE 10 is really nice, actually.

[Warrior]

WWDC 05 made Leapord seem like an OS which would blow Vista away.

Microsoft only needs to say one thing to shut Apple up: DirectX 10

Let's get this straight again:

Not only has Microsoft created .NET 3.0(Crappy name) which includes the Windows Presentation Foundation along with others but:

They are setting the standard for Graphics cards of the future by forcing them to be compliant to the DirectX10 standard. It's all or nothing with card features so the life of programmers is much easier.

They are introducing GPU accelerated GUIs and tearless drawing with the DWM

They've taken strides to improve their webbrowser (Significant strides, you guys heard they dropped the IE7+ name? Yep they listened to feedback)

They secured the OS with UAC (Which has been dramatically improved btw)

as well as other things such as Bitlocker, Flip3D(Although an Expose' type thing would rock)

I'm sure theres more I'm forgetting to list but the point is they do all this AND keep backward compat (IE7, Office, .NET 3.0, hell WPF is even going to work cross platform)

[zorm]

WWDC 05 made Leapord seem like an OS which would blow Vista away.

Microsoft only needs to say one thing to shut Apple up: DirectX 10

Let's get this straight again:

Not only has Microsoft created .NET 3.0(Crappy name) which includes the Windows Presentation Foundation along with others but:

They are setting the standard for Graphics cards of the future by forcing them to be compliant to the DirectX10 standard. It's all or nothing with card features so the life of programmers is much easier.

They are introducing GPU accelerated GUIs and tearless drawing with the DWM

They've taken strides to improve their webbrowser (Significant strides, you guys heard they dropped the IE7+ name? Yep they listened to feedback)

They secured the OS with UAC (Which has been dramatically improved btw)

as well as other things such as Bitlocker, Flip3D(Although an Expose' type thing would rock)

I'm sure theres more I'm forgetting to list but the point is they do all this AND keep backward compat (IE7, Office, .NET 3.0, hell WPF is even going to work cross platform)

Those all sound great but you won't know until its actually released if any of them are worth the bits they take up. It might be like XP which has a crapload of 'new features' all of which I promptly turned off because they suck ass and I don't want them.

Also I'll never really forgive them for IE6, to stop updating your product when you know it is broken and crap is about the worst sin you can make. Even more so when you consider that they didn't even start over from scratch for IE7 they just updated IE6. Stuff like that makes me want to puke and is one of the really nice things about open source software. Atleast if it sucks there is the option of fixing it yourself.

[Warrior]

WWDC 05 made Leapord seem like an OS which would blow Vista away.

Microsoft only needs to say one thing to shut Apple up: DirectX 10

Let's get this straight again:

Not only has Microsoft created .NET 3.0(Crappy name) which includes the Windows Presentation Foundation along with others but:

They are setting the standard for Graphics cards of the future by forcing them to be compliant to the DirectX10 standard. It's all or nothing with card features so the life of programmers is much easier.

They are introducing GPU accelerated GUIs and tearless drawing with the DWM

They've taken strides to improve their webbrowser (Significant strides, you guys heard they dropped the IE7+ name? Yep they listened to feedback)

They secured the OS with UAC (Which has been dramatically improved btw)

as well as other things such as Bitlocker, Flip3D(Although an Expose' type thing would rock)

I'm sure theres more I'm forgetting to list but the point is they do all this AND keep backward compat (IE7, Office, .NET 3.0, hell WPF is even going to work cross platform)

Those all sound great but you won't know until its actually released if any of them are worth the bits they take up. It might be like XP which has a crapload of 'new features' all of which I promptly turned off because they suck ass and I don't want them.

Also I'll never really forgive them for IE6, to stop updating your product when you know it is broken and crap is about the worst sin you can make. Even more so when you consider that they didn't even start over from scratch for IE7 they just updated IE6. Stuff like that makes me want to puke and is one of the really nice things about open source software. Atleast if it sucks there is the option of fixing it yourself.

Most of what I mentioned is avalible either as Beta software or actual public downloads.

I trust the IE7 team a lot, after watching some of their videos they are on the right track. They seem to have picked their act up. Additionally, they took the IE6 Renderer out and wrote a new one from scratch and basically all of the core libraries of the Browser have been rewritten. It seems to be holding out well thus far.