Author Topic: Slackware 11.0 almost ready! (Read 9132 times)

Newby · « **on:** August 15, 2006, 01:26:05 pm »

http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/08/15/1518234.shtml

I think I'll wait for it to be released before I install my new 320gb SATA HDD.

MyndFyre · « **Reply #1 on:** August 15, 2006, 01:28:55 pm »

I thought they upgraded to kernel 2.6 in Slack 10.1, but /. says they upgraded to kernel 2.4.33.

Ergot · « **Reply #2 on:** August 15, 2006, 01:45:29 pm »

Quote from: MyndFyre[x86] on August 15, 2006, 01:28:55 pm

I thought they upgraded to kernel 2.6 in Slack 10.1, but /. says they upgraded to kernel 2.4.33.

It was available in Slack 10.1 as an option. Same with Slack 11.

Newby · « **Reply #3 on:** August 15, 2006, 03:06:25 pm »

2.4 series is more stable than 2.6. 2.6's minor changes can be drastic. It's sickening. :/

iago · « **Reply #4 on:** August 15, 2006, 03:35:36 pm »

Yeah, Patrick favors speed/general useability over the newer kernel. However, 2.4.33 is as up-to-date as 2.6.17, they're both the heads.

skip · « **Reply #5 on:** August 15, 2006, 03:39:45 pm »

Hmm.. maybe I'll try it out. I rememer when I tried 10.2.... total nightmare.

Too bad there's no GNOME. I always like GNOME better than KDE. I think KDE is ugly.

iago · « **Reply #6 on:** August 15, 2006, 03:50:55 pm »

Nightmare? I've never had an issue with Slackware, but that's just me.

You can get a third-party gnome package easily, try www.linuxpackages.net, the best source for non-standard Slackware packages.

Newby · « **Reply #7 on:** August 15, 2006, 03:53:40 pm »

I remember upgrading from 10.1 to 10.2 (I thought it was 10.0 to 10.1... but eh :/) and I broke my kernel.

skip · « **Reply #8 on:** August 15, 2006, 03:57:24 pm »

Quote from: iago on August 15, 2006, 03:50:55 pm

Nightmare? I've never had an issue with Slackware, but that's just me.

You can get a third-party gnome package easily, try www.linuxpackages.net, the best source for non-standard Slackware packages.

Heh, it was mostly hardware detection that caused the nightmare, lol.

Oh, really.... hmm, maybe I will try it out. Hopefully the hardware detection is a lot better than 10.2.

Newby · « **Reply #9 on:** August 15, 2006, 03:59:01 pm »

What hardware wasn't detected? You should be able to get through an install (boot with sata.i if you have an SATA HDD), and then configure a kernel to meet your hardware specifications... (www.kernel.org).

Ergot · « **Reply #10 on:** August 15, 2006, 04:11:18 pm »

Quote from: skip on August 15, 2006, 03:39:45 pm

Hmm.. maybe I'll try it out. I rememer when I tried 10.2.... total nightmare.

Too bad there's no GNOME. I always like GNOME better than KDE. I think KDE is ugly.

http://gsb.freerock.org/

skip · « **Reply #11 on:** August 15, 2006, 04:50:29 pm »

Hahaha, lol, has this thread turned into helping me?

Quote from: Newby on August 15, 2006, 03:59:01 pm

What hardware wasn't detected? You should be able to get through an install (boot with sata.i if you have an SATA HDD), and then configure a kernel to meet your hardware specifications... (www.kernel.org).

It wasn't the installation that was the problem. I installed it fine, but my resolution was a small box in the middle of the screen (probably because my card wasn't detected), my internet didn't work (probably because my modem/router wasn't detected), so I couldn't get drivers, my USB mouse didn't work, etc. That's all I can remember from the top of my head.

Quote from: Ergot on August 15, 2006, 04:11:18 pm

Quote from: skip on August 15, 2006, 03:39:45 pm
Hmm.. maybe I'll try it out. I rememer when I tried 10.2.... total nightmare.

Too bad there's no GNOME. I always like GNOME better than KDE. I think KDE is ugly.
http://gsb.freerock.org/

Hmm.. interesting. Thanks for this.

Newby · « **Reply #12 on:** August 15, 2006, 06:18:47 pm »

I have that same issue on the laptop I use. I just jack the resolution up to 1600x1200 and it doesn't bother me!

rabbit · « **Reply #13 on:** August 15, 2006, 07:11:38 pm »

Quote from: skip on August 15, 2006, 04:50:29 pm

It wasn't the installation that was the problem. I installed it fine, but my resolution was a small box in the middle of the screen (probably because my card wasn't detected), my internet didn't work (probably because my modem/router wasn't detected), so I couldn't get drivers, my USB mouse didn't work, etc. That's all I can remember from the top of my head.

Hm. Turn up the resolution. Make sure you run net-config (IIRC that's what it's called). Enable hotplug. All of that happened to me too.

skip · « **Reply #14 on:** August 15, 2006, 07:16:51 pm »

Quote from: Newby on August 15, 2006, 06:18:47 pm

I have that same issue on the laptop I use. I just jack the resolution up to 1600x1200 and it doesn't bother me!

You have the same laptop as I do. If I remember correctly, I couldn't get any higher than 640x480.

Quote from: rabbit on August 15, 2006, 07:11:38 pm

Quote from: skip on August 15, 2006, 04:50:29 pm
It wasn't the installation that was the problem. I installed it fine, but my resolution was a small box in the middle of the screen (probably because my card wasn't detected), my internet didn't work (probably because my modem/router wasn't detected), so I couldn't get drivers, my USB mouse didn't work, etc. That's all I can remember from the top of my head.

Hm. Turn up the resolution. Make sure you run net-config (IIRC that's what it's called). Enable hotplug. All of that happened to me too.

Haha, I guess I'll try that out when 11.0 comes out.

Newby · « **Reply #15 on:** August 15, 2006, 11:51:57 pm »

Quote from: skip on August 15, 2006, 07:16:51 pm

You have the same laptop as I do. If I remember correctly, I couldn't get any higher than 640x480.

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newby@overkill:~$ grep -A 1 -B 3 "1600x1200" /etc/X11/xorg.conf
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection

iago · « **Reply #16 on:** August 16, 2006, 10:39:53 am »

If the video card is ATI or nVidia, that won't work. You have to download the drivers which is a bit of a pain. Both are do-able, though.

And for network card, you probably have to load the driver. Most people (besides rabbit, I suppose) do the defaults when installing, which is setting up the network card for dhcp and enabling hotplug. Assuming you did those, and you have no interweb, you have to load the driver (every network card you'll ever see, most likely, has a driver).

Figure out the brand, google it to figure out the driver, then do "modprobe [drivername]"

deadly7 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 16, 2006, 10:54:00 am »

Quote from: rabbit on August 15, 2006, 07:11:38 pm

Hm. Turn up the resolution. Make sure you run net-config (IIRC that's what it's called). Enable hotplug. All of that happened to me too.

Just to clarify, there is no hyphen. It's just "netconfig".

How do you go about updating Slackware without completely reinstalling?

skip · « **Reply #18 on:** August 16, 2006, 11:04:36 am »

Ugh, all that work... I kind of prefer to just use a distro where all that stuff is already installed & configured out of the box.

iago · « **Reply #19 on:** August 16, 2006, 11:25:25 am »

Quote from: deadly7 on August 16, 2006, 10:54:00 am

How do you go about updating Slackware without completely reinstalling?

There's several ways, depending on how you installed:
- If you used a different partition for /home and /usr/local, then you just install again, formatting your root partition
- If you used the same partition, you can probably just install again, ensuring that you check off the same files
- Use slapt-get --dist-upgrade

Quote from: skip on August 16, 2006, 11:04:36 am

Ugh, all that work... I kind of prefer to just use a distro where all that stuff is already installed & configured out of the box.

I believe I just said this in my previous post, but maybe I didn't stay it right: Slackware DOES install and configure everything out of the box, unless you say 'no' while installing it. That's except for drivers, which isn't a terribly common condition.

Newby · « **Reply #20 on:** August 16, 2006, 12:10:39 pm »

Quote from: deadly7 on August 16, 2006, 10:54:00 am

How do you go about updating Slackware without completely reinstalling?

There's a file on the root location of the install CD. Called "UPGRADING" or something.

Follow those instructions.

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