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Vista 5536 Pre-RC1 Review
« on: August 26, 2006, 02:05:01 am »
Microsoft released 5536 to Beta Testers on Aug 24th and it is a Pre-RC1 interim build.

Changes include:

Dramatic Speed enhancements over 5456/5472 and decreased boot time memory usage
Fit and Finish icons all over the place
Slight UI improvements
Updated Gadgets
Seemingly better Display Drivers (And the ability to reboot a crashed driver)

Read the review here.

Personally, I think that what I said a few months back still stands. Vista is going to be a hell of a release. The OS has picked up it's act from being a sluggish and buggy beta OS to one that is looking to hit the shelves any time soon.

I still wish that Microsoft would delay Vista so that they can have even more time to make sure everything will run fine, the last thing we want is an early SP1.
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Re: Vista 5536 Pre-RC1 Review
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2006, 10:02:08 am »
My only conern is that I'm about to get a new laptop, but IIRC it's got a dual core 32bit processor, but Vista can only do full HD display in 64bit.  Bummer.

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Re: Vista 5536 Pre-RC1 Review
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2006, 12:43:03 pm »
Seriously? I thought 32Bit could do it since there was recently some turmoil over Microsoft only allowing HD that was Protected to play.

I'll try to look into it further. Some Vista info on Microsoft's website is semi outdated, it's simply too hard to keep it updated in such a beta stage.
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Re: Vista 5536 Pre-RC1 Review
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2006, 02:45:02 pm »
Seriously? I thought 32Bit could do it since there was recently some turmoil over Microsoft only allowing HD that was Protected to play.

I'll try to look into it further. Some Vista info on Microsoft's website is semi outdated, it's simply too hard to keep it updated in such a beta stage.

Yeah, HD isn't going to be allowed on 32-bit CPUs due to copy protection or something stupid like that.  DMCA is really going to bit the world in the ass when, in a couple hundred years, they aren't going to be able to access any data from the 21century. 

oh, and Source.

<edit> I was just looking at the source, and apparently microsoft told them that they were wrong, and said that it might be possible.  But MS has  yet to elaborate on what the odds are.  So who knows?  My feelings about DMCA stand :)
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Re: Vista 5536 Pre-RC1 Review
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2006, 06:27:25 pm »
Seriously? I thought 32Bit could do it since there was recently some turmoil over Microsoft only allowing HD that was Protected to play.

I'll try to look into it further. Some Vista info on Microsoft's website is semi outdated, it's simply too hard to keep it updated in such a beta stage.

Yeah, HD isn't going to be allowed on 32-bit CPUs due to copy protection or something stupid like that.  DMCA is really going to bit the world in the ass when, in a couple hundred years, they aren't going to be able to access any data from the 21century. 

oh, and Source.

<edit> I was just looking at the source, and apparently microsoft told them that they were wrong, and said that it might be possible.  But MS has  yet to elaborate on what the odds are.  So who knows?  My feelings about DMCA stand :)

That's really stupid and I'm glad Microsoft disagrees, will they do something is the question.
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Re: Vista 5536 Pre-RC1 Review
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2006, 07:26:52 pm »
I hope so.  I really don't want my brand new laptop to not be able to get the best out of Vista.

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Re: Vista 5536 Pre-RC1 Review
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2006, 08:23:29 pm »
I hope so.  I really don't want my brand new laptop to not be able to get the best out of Vista.

I wonder if a laptop, aged this year or less, will be able to even barely run Vista.
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Re: Vista 5536 Pre-RC1 Review
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2006, 08:36:41 pm »
Nothing will be able to run Vista better than "barely" for a few (several) years.
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: Vista 5536 Pre-RC1 Review
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2006, 08:39:56 pm »
I hope so.  I really don't want my brand new laptop to not be able to get the best out of Vista.

I wonder if a laptop, aged this year or less, will be able to even barely run Vista.
Well, I haven't bought it yet, so I'm not sure.

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Re: Vista 5536 Pre-RC1 Review
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2006, 08:41:58 pm »
Nothing will be able to run Vista better than "barely" for a few (several) years.

What the hell are you talking about?
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Re: Vista 5536 Pre-RC1 Review
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2006, 08:43:02 pm »
I hope so.  I really don't want my brand new laptop to not be able to get the best out of Vista.

I wonder if a laptop, aged this year or less, will be able to even barely run Vista.

I'm pretty sure we've had 512MB of ram for more than a year or less. Now to run all of the eye candy you need a 128MB Video card. (You can even get away with less I've heard at a small performance loss)

So, like the above: What the hell are you talking about?
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Re: Vista 5536 Pre-RC1 Review
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2006, 09:22:20 pm »
Nothing will be able to run Vista better than "barely" for a few (several) years.

You're a fucking moron. Please refrain from opening your mouth on subjects you lack any knowledge about whatsoever.
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I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Vista 5536 Pre-RC1 Review
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2006, 09:23:36 pm »
I hope so.  I really don't want my brand new laptop to not be able to get the best out of Vista.

I wonder if a laptop, aged this year or less, will be able to even barely run Vista.

I'm pretty sure we've had 512MB of ram for more than a year or less. Now to run all of the eye candy you need a 128MB Video card. (You can even get away with less I've heard at a small performance loss)

So, like the above: What the hell are you talking about?

Ok let's set something staight.  Microsoft says that Windows XP needs a minimum of 233 MHz and 64MB of ram to run.  Does that mean it will run well? NO!

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/upgrading/sysreqs.mspx

I hear Vista requires a minimum of 512MB. Well, if this requirement is proportional to Windows XP's...you had better have more than 512MB of ram.  Probably the same applies to minimum video ram and  minimum CPU speed.
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Re: Vista 5536 Pre-RC1 Review
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2006, 09:25:18 pm »
Actually I used to run it on a computer that was a 233 MHz 64MB RAM laptop (my old old laptop). It ran fine. Occasionally it got extremely sluggish, but it did its job. So eh? I guess minimum requirements were met. :)
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I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Vista 5536 Pre-RC1 Review
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2006, 09:32:27 pm »
Actually I used to run it on a computer that was a 233 MHz 64MB RAM laptop (my old old laptop). It ran fine. Occasionally it got extremely sluggish, but it did its job. So eh? I guess minimum requirements were met. :)

I ran XP Pro on a 500MHz Dell with 128MB of RAM.  It ran fine as long as you turned off all special features.  I can't imagine anybody running it on 233MHz...even Windows 98/ME chokes on 233MHz!
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