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« on: August 30, 2006, 04:23:52 pm »
Anyone know where I can find a download for this?  I have searched google and I haven't found any sites that have a download option, just an explination of what G++ is. :(

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Re: G++
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2006, 04:25:22 pm »
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Re: G++
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2006, 04:42:31 pm »
Hrmmm.. Now I feel dumb, but how do I open a .tar file?  And does G++ have an IDE version?  Does any of that make sense?

I feel so stupid. :(
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Re: G++
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2006, 05:08:49 pm »
GCC stands for the GNU Compiler Collection, and G++ is the GNU C++ compiler in that collection. Being a compiler collection, there are no IDEs that come with GCC, but IDEs can be used ontop of G++ just as they can be used ontop of any other compiler. I believe that the Dev-C++ IDE comes integrated with GCC.

If you're on Windows, there are many programs you can download that can unarchive tar files, but Windows doesn't come with any of them (eh, can't speak for vista). You can download the tar program for Windows, but from my experience it doesn't work very nicely on Windows (it doesn't have a few functionalities that it has on *nix). So if you're on Windows I would recommend 7-Zip. If you're on *nix, you already have it, so do: tar xvfz filename.tar.gz       or tar xvf filename.tar, the 'z' if it has gzip compression. Eh, and if you have Tiger, then... not sure if it comes with tar but give a whirl and there's definitely programs for untarring for Mac.

Also, if you're not on 'nix, be sure to download the pre-compiled package.

Don't feel stupid for asking questions. That attitude would destroy the purpose of a forum. There's nothing embarassing in learning. This response is long-winded but I hope it helps.
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Re: G++
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2006, 05:13:52 pm »
To both of youze: it's gcc and g++, not capitalized.  "G++" confused me, but "g++" didn't, because the tools have lowercase names. 

If you're planning on using g++ from Windows, get Dev-c++ from http://www.bloodshed.net.  It's an IDE (other name for a GUI) that uses the Windows version of g++ and gcc to compile programs. 

But typically, gcc and g++ are command-line-based Unix/Linux compilers.  It's pretty rare to use them on Windows, except for educational purposes.

If you're on Linux and want to learn about .tar files, type "man tar" -- they give you examples at the top. 

If you're on Windows and want to play with tar files, you can use WinRAR.  But typically, tar files are intended for Linux. 
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Re: G++
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2006, 05:18:26 pm »
Quote from: iago on August 30, 2006, 05:13:52 pm
To both of youze: it's gcc and g++, not capitalized.  "G++" confused me, but "g++" didn't, because the tools have lowercase names. 
Well, that's just because Linux is base 39. Wikipedia capitalizes it =p. And we all know Wikipedia is always correct.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Compiler_Collection

Now begins the English vs. 'nix flamewars.


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Re: G++
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2006, 05:33:40 pm »
Yeah, that's totally wrong. :P
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Re: G++
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2006, 06:24:16 pm »
Thank you guys for your help.  And thanks Ender for making me feel less stupid. :P

I will download that Dev IDE.  I was just getting sick of having to telnet to our UNIX server for typing in a program and then having to use this hugemongus command to compile it.  It was getting on my nerves and I like having an IDE better. 

Thanks again guys. ^^

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Sorry about the caps thing.  Of course Ron would get "confused" by such a simple mistake. :P
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Re: G++
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2006, 06:50:23 pm »
Quote from: AntiVirus on August 30, 2006, 06:24:16 pm
Thank you guys for your help.  And thanks Ender for making me feel less stupid. :P

I will download that Dev IDE.  I was just getting sick of having to telnet to our UNIX server for typing in a program and then having to use this hugemongus command to compile it.  It was getting on my nerves and I like having an IDE better. 

Thanks again guys. ^^

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Sorry about the caps thing.  Of course Ron would get "confused" by such a simple mistake. :P

Hugemongus?  If you have a program called "myprogram.c", you type "gcc myprogram.c".  That's not hard!  Everything else (like -o) is gravy. 

My favorite way of that solving the problem was installing Linux on my laptop.  But that's just me :P
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Re: G++
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2006, 07:05:29 pm »
I have to do it this certain way.  And the command is not that simple..

It's: g++ -W -Wall -s -pedantic-errors name.cpp -o name

Then after that to actually get my file to run, I have to type:
./name

I find that a tad bit annoying.  I rather debug my program using an IDE then messing with a dos screen.  :P

And yes, hugemongus.  It's a word that I use all the time to exaggerate how big something is. :P

And yeah, my Dad told me I should use VMWare instead of dual booting my laptop. But, I don't know.  I want both Windows and a linux based operating system on my computer. 
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Re: G++
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2006, 07:25:29 pm »
I wouldn't use VMware unless your computer can handle another OS running inside of it...

And that command is rather easy, btw. Look at some of the commands in Makefiles. Look how hard that'd be!

You should write a Makefile for your projects. :)
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Re: G++
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2006, 08:31:35 pm »
Quote from: AntiVirus on August 30, 2006, 07:05:29 pm
It's: g++ -W -Wall -s -pedantic-errors name.cpp -o name

I think that -Wall is a superset of -W, I think. 

-s is useless.  Actually, -s is bad -- it strips debugging information

I think -pedantic-errors is a bad thing, it lets you use functions that you shouldn't use, I think?  That doesn't seem right, but that's the impression I get from the man-page....

And you don't need -o, if you leave off -o it calls the output file "a.out". 


But using all those doesn't hurt.  However, Newby's right, a Makefile would make your life far easier. 
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Re: G++
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2006, 09:52:13 pm »
Lmao.  I don't know how to make a makefile.  And besides, I am just doing what my teacher tells me to do. :P
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Re: G++
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2006, 12:13:58 am »
Your teacher should *teach* you how to install this stuff. :)
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Re: G++
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2006, 10:33:06 am »
Not really.  Usually teachers have machines setup with all this stuff ahead of time.  Sounds like AV is doing this at home.
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