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Re: Slackware 11! :D
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2006, 04:56:00 pm »
Good job to Pat on a great distro.
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Re: Slackware 11! :D
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2006, 06:37:17 pm »
Nothing is intuitive.  RTFM. :P

It should be...

Not when it's considered 'testing' (ie, beta)

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Re: Slackware 11! :D
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2006, 06:41:59 pm »
I was wondering if they added an intuitive way to accomplish the recommendation in your second sentence. :P

I thought they did, when it asks you to install a kernel and normally you just pick the one the boot disk used. :/
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[17:32:45] * xar sets mode: -oooooooooo algorithm ban chris cipher newby stdio TehUser tnarongi|away vursed warz
[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
[17:32:58] <xar> new rule
[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Slackware 11! :D
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2006, 06:44:47 pm »
That's for creating a bootdisk (vmlinuz or whatever), not installing the kernel :P

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Re: Slackware 11! :D
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2006, 06:59:04 pm »
Wrong.

4.6 The CONFIGURE option:

The setup's CONFIGURE option does the basic configuration your system
needs, such as creating links for your mouse and modem, setting your
timezone, and more.

The CONFIGURE option will first ensure that you've installed a usable
Linux kernel on your hard drive.  The installation program should suggest
installing the same kernel from the CD-ROM that you used for the
installation process, and you should go ahead and do this. There is a
generic kernel (kernel-ide) that comes with the A series that is actually
the same as the bare.i kernel, but the best kernel to install to your hard
drive is the one that you used to do the installation.  If you used a
bootdisk rather than booting the CD-ROM, you should install the kernel
from your bootdisk by selecting the "bootdisk" option on the kernel
installation menu. The menu will prompt you to reinsert your installation
bootdisk and hit enter, and then setup will copy the kernel from the
bootdisk to your hard drive.

If you don't want to use the recommended kernel, you can pick any kernel
from the menu of kernels available on the CD-ROM, but if you install the
wrong kernel the machine likely won't boot -- it's really a much better
plan to install the same kernel you installed the system with. Since you
used it to successfully install Slackware, you know it will work on the
installed system as well.


NOTE:  If you install a kernel on your system that doesn't boot correctly,
you can still boot your system with the CD-ROM. To do this, you need to
enter some information on the boot prompt.  For example, if your root
partition is on /dev/hda1, you'd enter this to boot your system:

        bare.i root=/dev/hda1 noinitrd ro

The "noinitrd" option tells the kernel not to load the installer image
into RAM, and the "ro" option makes the root partition initially load as
read-only so Linux can safely check the filesystem.

You can also start the system with an installation bootdisk, but the
syntax is slightly different:

        mount root=/dev/hda1 ro

Once you've installed a kernel, you'll be asked if you want to make a
bootdisk for your new system.
  This is a very good idea, so insert a
formatted floppy disk and use the "Create" option to create a bootdisk for
your system.
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[17:32:45] * xar sets mode: -oooooooooo algorithm ban chris cipher newby stdio TehUser tnarongi|away vursed warz
[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
[17:32:58] <xar> new rule
[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Slackware 11! :D
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2006, 07:21:49 pm »
Oi?  Someone lied to me.

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Re: Slackware 11! :D
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2006, 08:21:06 pm »
Not when it's considered 'testing' (ie, beta)

Installing a kernel that is considered somewhat standard in the Linux community should be installed in an obscurely difficult fashion? :P

Cool, Newby.  That's sitll more difficult than it could be, though!  I'll give it a try sometime...

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Re: Slackware 11! :D
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2006, 08:44:01 pm »
Can you boot the disk with the 2.6 kernel? If so, do it. :P
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[17:32:45] * xar sets mode: -oooooooooo algorithm ban chris cipher newby stdio TehUser tnarongi|away vursed warz
[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
[17:32:58] <xar> new rule
[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Slackware 11! :D
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2006, 10:40:51 pm »
Not when it's considered 'testing' (ie, beta)

Installing a kernel that is considered somewhat standard in the Linux community should be installed in an obscurely difficult fashion? :P

Cool, Newby.  That's sitll more difficult than it could be, though!  I'll give it a try sometime...
Well, I don't think a beta/testing version should be easy to install, if you want it you should know what you're doing.  So shuttup :P

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Re: Slackware 11! :D
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2006, 10:49:06 pm »
Well, I don't think a beta/testing version should be easy to install, if you want it you should know what you're doing.  So shuttup :P

It may be considered beta testing, but have you ever had any problems that you were able to directly attribute to the 2.6 kernel?  I've ran into so many issues that had solutions only implementable with the 2.6 kernel that I don't think it's very sensible to make it difficult to install it.

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Re: Slackware 11! :D
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2006, 10:50:24 pm »
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Re: Slackware 11! :D
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2006, 09:42:40 am »
Well, I don't think a beta/testing version should be easy to install, if you want it you should know what you're doing.  So shuttup :P

It may be considered beta testing, but have you ever had any problems that you were able to directly attribute to the 2.6 kernel?  I've ran into so many issues that had solutions only implementable with the 2.6 kernel that I don't think it's very sensible to make it difficult to install it.

It's not difficult, you install it the same way you install anything: find the package, and run "installpkg" on it.  It's just not easy.

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Re: Slackware 11! :D
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2006, 11:31:00 am »
It's not difficult, you install it the same way you install anything: find the package, and run "installpkg" on it.  It's just not easy.

It's not easy, but it's not difficult, huh? :P

If it's that easy, why don't they just make it an option during the install sequence?!

Also, I was unable to get the installpkg to work with the 2.6 kernel when you recommended it.  I had to use a custom kernel.

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Re: Slackware 11! :D
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2006, 12:14:09 pm »
It's not easy, but it's not difficult, huh? :P
Yes, it's like doing an average Su-Do-Ku, to take a completely random example.  They aren't easy, nor are they hard. 

If it's that easy, why don't they just make it an option during the install sequence?!
You install it the same way you install other weird packages.  It's completely normal for the distro. 

Also, I was unable to get the installpkg to work with the 2.6 kernel when you recommended it.  I had to use a custom kernel.
Then it probably wouldn't have worked if you'd installed it during the normall installation, either.  All the installer does is run "installpkg" on everything you tell it to. 

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Re: Slackware 11! :D
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2006, 12:19:48 pm »
Yes, it's like doing an average Su-Do-Ku, to take a completely random example.  They aren't easy, nor are they hard. 

I'm talking about the install sequence.  I see no reason for it to not be an option.

You install it the same way you install other weird packages.  It's completely normal for the distro. 

It's a kernel, though!  It should be implemented into the install sequence.

Then it probably wouldn't have worked if you'd installed it during the normall installation, either.  All the installer does is run "installpkg" on everything you tell it to. 

Then they should fix it. :P