Yeah, I'm pretty impressed with Vista

[MyndFyre]

I'm still on the RC1 bits, although I've got the RC2 DVD ISO at home.  Still, it's working solidly, and I'm pretty happy with what I see.

[Warrior]

Agreed. Explorer has grown on me, and become my top favorite from Vista. I just love how much I can customize it.

UAC is not nearly as intrusive as it used to be and performance is okay in RC2. I've experienced a few slowdowns but it will most likely be ironed out for RTM. I've also reported some DWM bugs to Microsoft and hope they will get fixed.

Vista is rock solid security wise, the system feels secure as hell. Doesn't let anything slip through. I don't know, but I think Mac has something to worry about with Vista.

[rabbit]

yay RC2!

Woot Flip3D   Sexy beast.

[iago]

Is it just me, or is there a lot of wasted desktop real-estate there, everything seems really big..

Also, is there no menus, like "File", "View", etc?  Or are they hidden?  Either of those options seems annoying to me, but maybe that's just me..

Vista is rock solid security wise

Considering you aren't a security expert, that's a pretty hefty claim.  I think that only time will tell on that one. 

[Joe]

Jesus Christ @ all three of you. Nice 1MB screenshots.

[MyndFyre]

Is it just me, or is there a lot of wasted desktop real-estate there, with that big clock and stuff?  Or is that your own option? 

That stuff is behind desktop windows unless it's actively being used, So no, it doesn't waste desktop real estate.

Also, is there no menus, like "File", "View", etc?  Or are they hidden?  Either of those options seems annoying to me, but maybe that's just me..

By default the menus are hidden and are visible when you press ALT. You can make them default to visible though.

The ink input panel is much improved too. This is He first time I've "written" with it, and it's far superior to XP's.

[iago]

Considering you aren't a security expert, that's a pretty hefty claim.  I think that only time will tell on that one. 

Yesterday, for patch Tuesday, Microsoft fixed 26 security flaws, including 10 critical, and two of them affected Vista.  I figure they're back on the same path again. 

Full story from Washington Post -- sorry about the crappy source, I'm at work and don't have time to find a real reference

[Sidoh]

Is it just me, or is there a lot of wasted desktop real-estate there, everything seems really big..

It's just you...

[CrAz3D]

purddy

so, uh, if I were looking to find this...would I download it via microsoft.com somewhere, order a dvd, or ask you people?

[MyndFyre]

purddy

so, uh, if I were looking to find this...would I download it via microsoft.com somewhere, order a dvd, or ask you people?

I believe Microsoft is only sending activation keys to people who have already participated in the beta.  I don't know of a place where new keys are being given out.

[MyndFyre]

Full story from Washington Post -- sorry about the crappy source, I'm at work and don't have time to find a real reference

That's a big deal because plenty of people (including the author) still use these older versions, and while users can get patches for recent versions of Office, Word, Excel and PowerPoint from the standard Microsoft patch sites -- such as Windows Update, Microsoft Update and via Automatic Updates -- people running Microsoft Office 2000, or standalone Word, Excel and PowerPoint versions cannot get updates for those products through the same means. Instead, they must add a second stage to their patching by heading over to the Office homepage and letting Office Update scan their machines.

What a fucking jackass.  So Microsoft wasn't forward-thinking enough six fucking years ago to integrate Office Update into Windows Update.  There is still a fucking Help->Update Office menu item in the Office products.

If I had to guess, the vulnerabilities would be this one in ASP.NET 2.0 (classified "moderate" and which does not permit remote code execution), and since they're not listed, it could be in either the XML core (critical) or server service (high).  I like how the article author instantly decided it's the XML services component with absolutely no hints from Microsoft that go either way.

I figure they're back on the same path again. 

Oh.  Duh.  What was I thinking?  We should just expect there to be absolutely no security issues whatsoever in any code that comes out of Redmond.  Because, as we all no, absolutely no quality software EVER requires updates.

[Sidoh]

I didn't participate in the beta and I was still able to get a key from the link warrior posted a few days ago.  I downloaded the ISO last night.  I'll probably install it some time soon.

[iago]

Oh.  Duh.  What was I thinking?  We should just expect there to be absolutely no security issues whatsoever in any code that comes out of Redmond.  Because, as we all no, absolutely no quality software EVER requires updates.

I was responding to the post I quoted:

Vista is rock solid security wise

showing that it's not, in fact, "rock solid".  It's just another OS, and it's going to have its share of security flaws. 

[CrAz3D]

I didn't participate in the beta and I was still able to get a key from the link warrior posted a few days ago.  I downloaded the ISO last night.  I'll probably install it some time soon.

aw:( his link
http://download.windowsvista.com/preview/rc2/en/download.htm
just redirects to
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/

[Warrior]

Oh.  Duh.  What was I thinking?  We should just expect there to be absolutely no security issues whatsoever in any code that comes out of Redmond.  Because, as we all no, absolutely no quality software EVER requires updates.

I was responding to the post I quoted:

Vista is rock solid security wise

showing that it's not, in fact, "rock solid".  It's just another OS, and it's going to have its share of security flaws. 

Okay? Given they were two out of ten bugs, and given it wasn't specified so it may not even be one of the critical security issues. Vista is still not released so they in fact are ironing out some of the bugs.

I still stand by it being rock solid, most of the XP vulns allowed a user to take control of your computer. With UAC locking every important thing down, I seriously doubt this will be an issue.

And at the UI stuff: I found it annoying to, but there is an option in explorer to show the File Edit Help menus.
The reason my stuff looks big is my ATi drivers wont let me set my res past 1024x768 for some reason.

@Rabbit: How's CS and stuff running? I hear Steam games have problem with the Vista game epxlorer.