Author Topic: Nevada to vote to legalize it (Read 8356 times)

Quote from: leet_muffin on October 17, 2006, 10:59:37 pm
Quote from: CrAz3D on October 17, 2006, 10:54:34 pm
I move that we arrest Nevada as a state!

I second.
...I guess this means Newby should call it to a vote now

No need. I second-ed. Motion passed.

d&q · « **Reply #6 on:** October 17, 2006, 11:43:20 pm »

I was under the impression that state law supersedes federal law

At least in some cases...

Newby · « **Reply #7 on:** October 17, 2006, 11:46:51 pm »

Quote from: Deuce on October 17, 2006, 11:43:20 pm

I was under the impression that state law supersedes federal law At least in some cases...

I learned that in AP US History too!

CrAz3D · « **Reply #8 on:** October 17, 2006, 11:55:12 pm »

Quote from: Deuce on October 17, 2006, 11:43:20 pm

I was under the impression that state law supersedes federal law At least in some cases...

Federal law trumps state law where the Feds have the authority to make laws

Newby · « **Reply #9 on:** October 18, 2006, 12:13:02 am »

I thought the Constitution was an agreement between the states, and if a state finds a law to be unconstitutional, they could nullify it...

Correct me where I'm wrong, because apparently that won't happen.

leet_muffin · « **Reply #10 on:** October 18, 2006, 12:15:40 am »

Quote from: Newby on October 18, 2006, 12:13:02 am

I thought the Constitution was an agreement between the states, and if a state finds a law to be unconstitutional, they could nullify it...

Correct me where I'm wrong, because apparently that won't happen.

That's what South Carolina said. Then the president at the time (I think it was Jackson?) said "Hey, fuck you." and began military preparations to attack South Carolina if they did not comply. They complied. Hence, states only have jurisdiction where it has yet to be claimed by federal government.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #11 on:** October 18, 2006, 12:20:46 am »

I think states might be able to sue to establish Constitutionality, not sure about just ignoring it.

Super_X · « **Reply #12 on:** October 18, 2006, 12:31:12 am »

If federal agents arrest some one, it's illegal, if state or more local policefind some one doing it, it's not illegal. State officials swear to abide by State laws, not necessaraly federal laws.

Towelie · « **Reply #13 on:** October 18, 2006, 01:26:06 am »

Quote from: Newby on October 18, 2006, 12:13:02 am

I thought the Constitution was an agreement between the states, and if a state finds a law to be unconstitutional, they could nullify it...

Correct me where I'm wrong, because apparently that won't happen.

Isn't this where there can be 2 different interpretations of the constitution? strict & loose? One where the power is in the states, the other in the gov't.

iago · « **Reply #14 on:** October 18, 2006, 09:33:34 am »

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Twelve states have decriminalized small amounts of marijuana - that is, possession is punishable by a ticket and a fine - and 11 allow its use for medical purposes. Possession of up to an ounce at home is legal in Alaska under a court ruling there, but the case is under appeal.

Seems like the law is perfectly possible?

Also, I 100% agree with this guy:

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"Make no mistake, I don't think using marijuana is a wise choice for anyone," said the Rev. William C. Webb, a Baptist minister who joined dozens of other religious leaders in announcing their backing. But "if there has to be a market in marijuana, I'd rather it be regulated with sensible safeguards than run by violent gangs and dangerous drug dealers."

It's a dumb choice, but people will do it anyways...

CrAz3D · « **Reply #15 on:** October 18, 2006, 09:48:40 am »

Word.
and then it can be taxed to hell like booze & tobacco! (& probably still be cheaper because you won't be paying the costs of the illegal crap that has to happen)

Blaze · « **Reply #16 on:** October 18, 2006, 09:53:34 am »

I learned in my Canadian History class that the states had more power for their laws then the federal government, and that Canada like copied the states with the exception of our federal government being more powerful... *shrug*

This was a few years ago, I might be wrong.

iago · « **Reply #17 on:** October 18, 2006, 10:04:05 am »

Quote from: Blaze on October 18, 2006, 09:53:34 am

I learned in my Canadian History class that the states had more power for their laws then the federal government, and that Canada like copied the states with the exception of our federal government being more powerful... *shrug*

This was a few years ago, I might be wrong.

Canada copied everybody. We have a little bit of Capitalism, little bit of Democracy, little bit of Monarchy, throw in a touch of Republicanism, add a dash of Socialism, and BAM! You have Canada!

Chavo · « **Reply #18 on:** October 18, 2006, 10:19:31 am »

Quote from: leet_muffin on October 18, 2006, 12:15:40 am

Hence, states only have jurisdiction where it has yet to be claimed by federal government.

correct. State law never supersedes Federal law under the Constitution. Those of you that think otherwise might be getting confused with the Articles of Confederation where that was the case. Nevada wouldn't be the first state to try to legalize marijuana, and if they succeed they won't be the first to have the federal government step in.

disco · « **Reply #19 on:** October 18, 2006, 10:23:15 am »

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Gambling, prostitution, and now pot?

My god, it's becoming my fantasy world...

iago · « **Reply #20 on:** October 18, 2006, 10:39:32 am »

Quote from: unTactical on October 18, 2006, 10:19:31 am

Nevada wouldn't be the first state to try to legalize marijuana, and if they succeed they won't be the first to have the federal government step in.

Nevermind state, when CANADA tried to legalize marijuana the US government stepped in!

I really wish I kept the source for that, but I don't have it anymore..

Sidoh · « **Reply #21 on:** October 18, 2006, 10:40:52 am »

Quote from: iago on October 18, 2006, 10:39:32 am

Nevermind state, when CANADA tried to legalize marijuana the US government stepped in!

I really wish I kept the source for that, but I don't have it anymore..

Maybe they're trying to step in there too?

Blaze · « **Reply #22 on:** October 18, 2006, 12:19:16 pm »

Quote from: iago on October 18, 2006, 10:39:32 am

Quote from: unTactical on October 18, 2006, 10:19:31 am
Nevada wouldn't be the first state to try to legalize marijuana, and if they succeed they won't be the first to have the federal government step in.
Nevermind state, when CANADA tried to legalize marijuana the US government stepped in!

I really wish I kept the source for that, but I don't have it anymore..

It's very ironic that they did that for marijuana because it would come into the states, when the same thing with guns is happening now.

Sidoh · « **Reply #23 on:** October 18, 2006, 12:22:28 pm »

Dangerous people would be able to acquire guns anyway. Potheads will get their pot anyway. It doesn't really matter if an adjacent country has it leaglized.

Blaze · « **Reply #24 on:** October 18, 2006, 01:12:11 pm »

Quote from: Sidoh on October 18, 2006, 12:22:28 pm

Dangerous people would be able to acquire guns anyway. Potheads will get their pot anyway. It doesn't really matter if an adjacent country has it leaglized.

Then why did he step in?

Sidoh · « **Reply #25 on:** October 18, 2006, 02:02:40 pm »

Quote from: Blaze on October 18, 2006, 01:12:11 pm

Then why did he step in?

Uh, who?

skip · « **Reply #26 on:** October 18, 2006, 10:09:45 pm »

To add a bit of clarification:
The clause of Article VI of the U.S. Constitution declares that all laws and treaties made by the federal government shall be the "supreme law of the land."
Meaning, if the state law & federal law ever contradict each other, federal law reigns supreme over state law.
This is also known as the Supremacy Clause.

dark_drake · « **Reply #27 on:** October 18, 2006, 10:18:42 pm »

Quote from: Newby on October 18, 2006, 12:13:02 am

I thought the Constitution was an agreement between the states, and if a state finds a law to be unconstitutional, they could nullify it...

That's basically what the civil war was about... $:-\$

Hitmen · « **Reply #28 on:** October 19, 2006, 11:40:33 am »

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An ounce of pot on the street costs upwards of $300, depending on the quality.

Ouch, someone's getting ripped off.

Newby · « **Reply #29 on:** October 19, 2006, 06:42:47 pm »

Quote from: Hitmen on October 19, 2006, 11:40:33 am

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An ounce of pot on the street costs upwards of $300, depending on the quality.
Ouch, someone's getting ripped off.

That's what I thought. I don't even smoke pot and I know that's wrong.

I associate with the wrong people.

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Author Topic: Nevada to vote to legalize it (Read 8356 times)

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