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Re: What can beat AIDS? AIDS!
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2006, 09:28:48 pm »
Incidentally, ...


Incidentally, I've noticed that you use the word incidentally rather often.

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Re: What can beat AIDS? AIDS!
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2006, 09:31:05 pm »
I wasn't trying to prove anything, yet I was simply casually contributing to the conversation by giving the idea out that this treatment is not a vaccine, which once again, I did fine in. I also don't know how many times I've said this, yet I never gave out a false definition of what a vaccine is. Yes, I didn't give out the right definition antidote, but that was barely relevant to what I said.

You implied that this treatment is an antidote, which it is clearly not.  I think it's fully relevant to what you were saying.


...My idea was solid, I just mixed up the definition of "antidote" with something else.

No, it was a false statement which, coincidentally, happened to have one member which was true: "this is not a vaccine."
Well, after looking up the definition of antidote, I've discovered the following: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/antidote
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1.   a medicine or other remedy for counteracting the effects of poison, disease, etc.
That's right, jackass. Call me an idiot, call my ideas idiotic, and call my reasoning fallible, when you don't even know what you're talking about. And don't say anything like "don't be too cocky now," because you brought this upon yourself by being an ass to me for making a mistake. I feel it's only right to return the same hospitality.
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That's exactly what I was saying, and most people would consider that habit to be a huge flaw in a person's character.

I don't care (nor do I think I should care) about your completely subjective view of what you or anyone else consider "good" in a person's character.
Which is another flaw. If you don't consider anyone else's opinion on a subject, you'll never improve some of the areas that could need improvement.
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Re: What can beat AIDS? AIDS!
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2006, 09:34:50 pm »
You didn't prove anything.
I proved that this treatment is not a vaccine, because vaccines prevent diseases while this treatment is used to fight the disease. If I did not prove that, then feel free to show how I didn't.

...And how do you think vaccines prevent diseases? 

All of you need to calm down, and then take a first year biology course :P.
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Re: What can beat AIDS? AIDS!
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2006, 09:37:10 pm »
I was simply summing it up. I know a vaccine infects you with an incredibly weak strain of the disease, and your body makes antibodies to further protect yourself from the disease in future endeavors. If you want to sum it up, this prevents the disease on a full-blown effect.
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Re: What can beat AIDS? AIDS!
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2006, 10:23:39 pm »
Well, after looking up the definition of antidote, I've discovered the following: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/antidote
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1.   a medicine or other remedy for counteracting the effects of poison, disease, etc.
That's right, jackass. Call me an idiot, call my ideas idiotic, and call my reasoning fallible, when you don't even know what you're talking about. And don't say anything like "don't be too cocky now," because you brought this upon yourself by being an ass to me for making a mistake. I feel it's only right to return the same hospitality.

http://m-w.com/dictionary/antidote
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Main Entry: an·ti·dote
Pronunciation: 'an-ti-"dOt
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English antidot, from Latin antidotum, from Greek antidotos, from feminine of antidotos given as an antidote, from antididonai to give as an antidote, from anti- + didonai to give -- more at DATE
1 : a remedy to counteract the effects of poison

http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=antidote
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S: (n) antidote, counterpoison (a remedy that stops or controls the effects of a poison)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antidote
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An antidote is a substance which can counteract a form of poisoning.

http://www.ees.adelaide.edu.au/icooper/glossary/a.htm
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A substance which counteracts a poison.

http://jced.jocogov.org/investigations/inv_definitions.htm
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A remedy to relieve, prevent, or counteract the effects of a poison.

Moron.

Which is another flaw. If you don't consider anyone else's opinion on a subject, you'll never improve some of the areas that could need improvement.

You're providing more subjective advice with even less factual reasoning.  I don't care what you think.  Stop whining about it.

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Re: What can beat AIDS? AIDS!
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2006, 10:54:26 pm »
Not only does the word "antidote" publicly have the connotation of being associated with a disease (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=antidote+disease&btnG=Search), a few dictionaries have included it in their definition (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/antidote). Words change, like I believe this has. I stand by everything I've said.
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Re: What can beat AIDS? AIDS!
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2006, 11:07:57 pm »
Not only does the word "antidote" publicly have the connotation of being associated with a disease (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=antidote+disease&btnG=Search), a few dictionaries have included it in their definition (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/antidote). Words change, like I believe this has. I stand by everything I've said.

You can type two words that are completely unrelated into google and still get results.  It proves nothing.

Context means everything.  Since this entire topic is related to medicine, showing that you can validly the word "antidote" in a context that has been removed from any sort of medical situation doesn't mean that you're right.

Here's a few definitions from medical sources:

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=13669
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A chemical antidote is a substance that unites with a poison to form a harmless chemical compound. A mechanical antidote is a substance that prevents the absorption of a poison from the intestine into the body.

http://www.answers.com/library/Medical+Dictionary-cid-45475657
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An agent used to neutralize or counteract the effects of a poison

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Re: What can beat AIDS? AIDS!
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2006, 11:10:11 pm »
Not only does the word "antidote" publicly have the connotation of being associated with a disease (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=antidote+disease&btnG=Search), a few dictionaries have included it in their definition (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/antidote). Words change, like I believe this has. I stand by everything I've said.
Also, Metal, if you read all of the definations, there's only that one that says "disease," the others say poison or some shit about youth.