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Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« on: November 07, 2006, 10:29:27 am »
I always find these interesting. Paradoxes can give any intelligent person a headache, and oxymorons can make you chuckle for a minute or so.

Everyone's unique.
Jumbo shrimp.
Microsoft works.

Nine out of ten agree that one out of ten will disagree with the other nine.
I went back in time and killed my great grandfather.
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2006, 12:19:14 pm »
Since unique isn't a very descriptive word, the first isn't much of an oxymoron.  "Jumbo" is a relative term, so the second isn't either.  The third is just stupid.

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2006, 12:51:13 pm »
Unique implies that people are different.  But the fact that everybody shares the property of being unique can be oxymoronical. 

Microsoft Works is my favorite. :)

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2006, 01:00:42 pm »
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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2006, 01:58:40 pm »
Unique implies that people are different.  But the fact that everybody shares the property of being unique can be oxymoronical. 

Microsoft Works is my favorite. :)

Like I said, "unique" is a very non-descriptive word.  If you were to compile a list of properties of each person, I have little doubt that there would be no two lists that were identical, assuming the number of properties was large enough.  I don't think that's a very good oxymoron.  It's too much of an oversight.

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2006, 02:22:16 pm »
Unique implies that people are different.  But the fact that everybody shares the property of being unique can be oxymoronical. 

Microsoft Works is my favorite. :)

Like I said, "unique" is a very non-descriptive word.  If you were to compile a list of properties of each person, I have little doubt that there would be no two lists that were identical, assuming the number of properties was large enough.  I don't think that's a very good oxymoron.  It's too much of an oversight.

You're thinking too hard for a joke :P

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2006, 03:07:25 pm »
Oxymorons aren't supposed to be jokes...

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2006, 04:18:46 pm »
I'm pretty sure there's supposed to be some humour element in them. 

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2006, 04:34:51 pm »
I don't think an oxymoron is supposed to imply anything other than two contradictory phrases.

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2006, 04:39:06 pm »
I am lying.
This sentence is false.

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2006, 05:08:45 pm »
"This sentence is false" doesn't work unless you include a statement such that only true and false are possibilities.

Such as:
The sentence below is true.
The sentence above is false.

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2006, 07:05:00 pm »
I don't think an oxymoron is supposed to imply anything other than two contradictory phrases.

Stop thinking then.  :)
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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2006, 07:14:35 pm »
"This sentence is false" doesn't work unless you include a statement such that only true and false are possibilities.

Such as:
The sentence below is true.
The sentence above is false.
It works just fine:
"This sentence is false."
If it's false, then it is true, which means it's not false, and thusly it's false, so it's true, etc...

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2006, 08:07:47 pm »
You're making the assumption that completely true and completely false are the only possibilities but your statement makes no restriction such that the assumption is necessary.  My example restricts all possibilities to completely true or completely false.

"This sentence is false"  can be partially true and partially false and still work ;)

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2006, 08:33:02 pm »
Yeah, the unique example sucks. Uniqueness is not unique. By your definition of unique no human is unique because we all share human traits. Unique doesn't mean your completely different.

The "Microsoft Works" one was funny the first time I've heard it but it's so overused now...

The rest are too bad to merit discussion.

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2006, 06:34:57 am »
You're making the assumption that completely true and completely false are the only possibilities but your statement makes no restriction such that the assumption is necessary.  My example restricts all possibilities to completely true or completely false.

"This sentence is false"  can be partially true and partially false and still work ;)
I'm assuming boolean interpretation, where a single thing, as defined by the sentence ("this sentence") is either true or false.  It's explicitly stated that the sentence is talking about the sentence as a whole, not parts of it.

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2006, 09:31:13 am »
You just proved my point, you're assuming something but not making the claim within the statement ;)

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2006, 04:37:29 pm »
how about this one: Sexy Niggers

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2006, 07:38:27 pm »
how about this one: Sexy Niggers

AHAHAHAHAHA
I bet one of our clan mates is black and is going to "bust a cap in your ass."

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2006, 07:48:00 pm »
I think Deuce would more effectively mentally torture him. :P

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2006, 09:54:57 pm »
I wouldn't sexually touch a Klan member. But that hurt Towelie. It hurt.  :'(
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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2006, 01:46:21 am »
I wouldn't sexually touch a Klan member. But that hurt Towelie. It hurt.  :'(
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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2006, 07:59:06 pm »
I think my favorite oxymoron is what Joe was trying to achieve:
You're special, just like every one else.
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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2006, 08:25:10 pm »
I think my favorite oxymoron is what Joe was trying to achieve:
You're special, just like every one else.

Special isn't a descriptive property.  If you have a box of crayons of all different colors, you could address as single crayon: "You're unique crayon in the box, just like all of the other crayons in the box" and not be presenting it with a paradox.

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2006, 10:17:10 pm »
I think my favorite oxymoron is what Joe was trying to achieve:
You're special, just like every one else.

Special isn't a descriptive property.  If you have a box of crayons of all different colors, you could address as single crayon: "You're unique crayon in the box, just like all of the other crayons in the box" and not be presenting it with a paradox.
I see your point. But usually if you think just that they are special, and not what is special about them it's a little more enjoyable. I mean, if they're special, and every one else is special, then no one is special. You're splitting up the specalities that every one has, this isn't the point of the lame joke. The point is to re-enforce sterotypes, and that's it.

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2006, 10:18:29 pm »
Dumb jokes piss me off. :P

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2006, 10:19:19 pm »
Dumb jokes piss me off. :P
But, you're cute when you're angry.

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2006, 10:21:31 pm »
Dumb jokes piss me off. :P
Black polar bears.
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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2006, 10:26:18 pm »
Dumb jokes piss me off. :P
Black polar bears.
Polar bearsare black.. They have black skin, but they have transparet hair that looks white from the light refracting in it.

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2006, 12:13:25 am »
Polar bearsare black.. They have black skin, but they have transparet hair that looks white from the light refracting in it.

Their skin is black.  That doesn't mean that a natural, healthy polar bear is black.  I have a nack for getting into stupid arguments.  This was one of them.  That's why Ergot mentioned it. :P

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2006, 01:11:11 am »
Viewing your voice mail.
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2006, 02:21:12 am »
Viewing your voice mail.
That's not an oxymoron or a paradox... it's a moronic statement.
Who gives a damn? I fuck sheep all the time.
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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2006, 07:45:14 pm »
Polar bearsare black.. They have black skin, but they have transparet hair that looks white from the light refracting in it.

Their skin is black.  That doesn't mean that a natural, healthy polar bear is black.  I have a nack for getting into stupid arguments.  This was one of them.  That's why Ergot mentioned it. :P
Yeah, I remember the huge argument you and Trust had a long time agoe. At the time I had forgoten who Trust was arguing with.

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2006, 07:48:40 pm »
I've had a bunch with Warrior as well.  I have an argumentative nature...

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2006, 07:53:10 pm »
a bunch is a serious understatement.
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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2006, 07:54:09 pm »
a bunch is a serious understatement.

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2006, 07:58:40 pm »
One must ask oneself: "do I will trolling to become a universal law?" And then when one realizes "yes, I do will it to be such," one feels completely justified.
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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2006, 09:27:50 pm »
Nullification nullified.

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2006, 09:47:21 pm »
Nullification nullified.

Sorry, only big boys can play this game. :(

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Re: Paradoxes and Oxymorons
« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2006, 06:38:18 am »
Your mother.