The three Heavens?

[Joe]

This has been confusing me for a while.. the bible makes some references to "the third Heaven", but what is that?

My only thought as to what it could be is the actual third (as in, chronological) Heaven -- the first being the Garden of Eden, the second being the one right now, and the third is the one described in "The New Heaven and The New Earth", the section of Revelation.

[Kaleeko]

Uh.. references? I'd like to see a reliable version of the bible that states "third Heaven", please.

[Sidoh]

Never heard of anything close to it.

[rabbit]

IIRC heaven is like hell in that there are different levels.  It's something like
Level 3: God
Level 2: Angels
Level 1: Humans & whatever (pet goldfish?)

[kalaka]

IIRC heaven is like hell in that there are different levels.  It's something like
Level 3: God
Level 2: Angels
Level 1: Humans & whatever (pet goldfish?)

No, its all the same place, there's just a hierarchy. Its something like:
God, Seraphims, Cherubims, Thrones, Dominions, Virtues, Powers, Principalities, Archangels,  Angels.

I found some references to the third heaven, this seems to sum it up pretty well. If you're too lazy too read that, here's a simple, short explanation:

The third heaven: A Jewish expression for that heaven which was beyond (1) the air, and (2) beyond the sun and stars; the secret place of the Almighty.

They mostly reference 2 Corinthians 12:2.

[Eric]

http://www.crivoice.org/thirdheaven.html

interesting.

[cheeseisfun]

In my belief, there is only a slight possibility that one could make it to heaven. And technically, they are not heavens at all, we would just think they are because we are not used to it. Such a place is the "Mental plane of existence," which exists in the upper levels of the Astral Plane. Only people who can achieve the frequency of vibration that those planes are at can achieve that level of awareness. Of course, this is not religion that I'm talking about, it's purely spirituality.

[Sidoh]

In my belief, there is only a slight possibility that one could make it to heaven. And technically, they are not heavens at all, we would just think they are because we are not used to it. Such a place is the "Mental plane of existence," which exists in the upper levels of the Astral Plane. Only people who can achieve the frequency of vibration that those planes are at can achieve that level of awareness. Of course, this is not religion that I'm talking about, it's purely spirituality.

Haha, that sounds like what a hippie would say.

[cheeseisfun]

In my belief, there is only a slight possibility that one could make it to heaven. And technically, they are not heavens at all, we would just think they are because we are not used to it. Such a place is the "Mental plane of existence," which exists in the upper levels of the Astral Plane. Only people who can achieve the frequency of vibration that those planes are at can achieve that level of awareness. Of course, this is not religion that I'm talking about, it's purely spirituality.

Haha, that sounds like what a hippie would say.

Nah, hippies wouldn't say that =P. www.astralsociety.com for more information.

[Sidoh]

That site is a tie-dyed pattern and a few pairs of circular glasses short of being a hippie itself.