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Re: C&D Letter from Cox
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2007, 10:20:39 pm »
If they really sent you a phony DMCA Takedown notice, then they could be charged with perjury, according to the law as I understand it. If you're confident in your position, you should pursue it from that direction.


I don't understand. What position?

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Re: C&D Letter from Cox
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2007, 10:22:31 pm »
If they really sent you a phony DMCA Takedown notice, then they could be charged with perjury, according to the law as I understand it. If you're confident in your position, you should pursue it from that direction.


I don't understand. What position?

I was referring to this:
i dont even recall it being on yesterday, which is the day listed.

That's all I really had to go on besides the DMCA letter, since your first post isn't there no more. I didn't really know why you posted this, I could only assume it's because you don't think you did anything, but I could be wrong.
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Re: C&D Letter from Cox
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2007, 11:20:03 pm »
I was just looking for advice for anybody who had gone through this but then I thought maybe I'd be best not posting it and plus none of the posts at that point were helpful. MyndFyre's link was very helpful though and also TehUser helped me out some.

I don't intend to contest it, just to comply.

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Re: C&D Letter from Cox
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2007, 11:44:47 pm »
Well, people post DMCA Takedowns all the time. 

For the most part, the DMCA is a mis-guided, highly-abused law. I'm happy to see anybody who fights it, when they have a case.

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Re: C&D Letter from Cox
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2007, 12:14:59 am »
Downloading copyrighted content is wrong, how is invoking a law that disallows it abusive?

In any case, force end-to-end encryption (and obfuscation) in uTorrent or Azureus and they'll be none the wiser, though you'll lose alot of peers.

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Re: C&D Letter from Cox
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2007, 08:54:43 am »
Downloading copyrighted content is wrong, how is invoking a law that disallows it abusive?
http://www.durangobill.com/Fight_DMCA_Abuse.html
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/24/133226

It's constantly abused.

But like I said, he should only pursue it if he knows he's innocent, which he doesn't, so it's irrelevant.

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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2007, 05:53:16 pm »
I emailed HBO, which I wish I hadn't as before they didn't know anything about me but my ip and now they know my moms email. The Cox guy on the phone said I shouldn't have emailed them.

Anyway he said I'll be fine, just delete the file and then email abuse@cox.net which I did...and they said that as long as I delete it I'm good.

so unless HBO's lawyers decide to be bitches, I'm in the clear. I don't foresee myself touching a torrent for a reallllly long time.

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Re: C&D Letter from Cox
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2007, 07:22:35 pm »
Pfft, There's nothing wrong with torrents. Well, as long as you're like me, and only download torrents for obscure bands with no connection to the RIAA or anyone with enough money to be litigious anyways.
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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2007, 09:12:40 pm »
Pfft, There's nothing wrong with torrents. Well, as long as you're like me, and only download torrents for obscure bands with no connection to the RIAA or anyone with enough money to be litigious anyways.

The Cox guy said that if it has been music, I'd probably be sued.

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Re: C&D Letter from Cox
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2007, 09:58:34 pm »
Pfft, There's nothing wrong with torrents. Well, as long as you're like me, and only download torrents for obscure bands with no connection to the RIAA or anyone with enough money to be litigious anyways.
That's a good point. It's not only that, but people who aren't with big labels are often happy that people care enough to listen, I've found.

The Cox guy said that if it has been music, I'd probably be sued.
Probably a scare tactic, I'd say.

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Re: C&D Letter from Cox
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2007, 10:47:34 pm »
Pfft, There's nothing wrong with torrents. Well, as long as you're like me, and only download torrents for obscure bands with no connection to the RIAA or anyone with enough money to be litigious anyways.

The Cox guy said that if it has been music, I'd probably be sued.

Because it would be a huge record label backing it, ready to sue your ass because the RIAA has yet to actually win a case. :P
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Re: C&D Letter from Cox
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2007, 12:28:01 am »
Pfft, There's nothing wrong with torrents. Well, as long as you're like me, and only download torrents for obscure bands with no connection to the RIAA or anyone with enough money to be litigious anyways.

The Cox guy said that if it has been music, I'd probably be sued.

Because it would be a huge record label backing it, ready to sue your ass because the RIAA has yet to actually win a case. :P

Of course they've won, they've got lots of settlements. That's basically the same thing, isn't it? 

I still say: o canada! 

Incidentally, in Canada every blank CD you buy has a levy on it, and the money from the levy ($0.10/disc or something) goes to the recording industry to pay for "damages" caused by downloading music. Apparently, it's because of that levy that they couldn't make a case out of Canadians downloading music, since we're technically paying the recording people. :)

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Re: C&D Letter from Cox
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2007, 01:07:50 am »
Pfft, There's nothing wrong with torrents. Well, as long as you're like me, and only download torrents for obscure bands with no connection to the RIAA or anyone with enough money to be litigious anyways.

The Cox guy said that if it has been music, I'd probably be sued.

Because it would be a huge record label backing it, ready to sue your ass because the RIAA has yet to actually win a case. :P

Of course they've won, they've got lots of settlements. That's basically the same thing, isn't it? 

I still say: o canada! 

Incidentally, in Canada every blank CD you buy has a levy on it, and the money from the levy ($0.10/disc or something) goes to the recording industry to pay for "damages" caused by downloading music. Apparently, it's because of that levy that they couldn't make a case out of Canadians downloading music, since we're technically paying the recording people. :)
I know that they had done that with Cassete tapes back in the '90s when the RIAA got bent out of shape about people recording what it getting played on the radio.

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Re: C&D Letter from Cox
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2007, 05:16:13 am »
I know that they had done that with Cassete tapes back in the '90s when the RIAA got bent out of shape about people recording what it getting played on the radio.

You can still do that. ReplayMusic + a pretty wacked out stereo-microphone port hookup (be sure to use a piece of crap you got at a garage sale for $2, the electricty from the mic port kills) and you're good.
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: C&D Letter from Cox
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2007, 05:18:59 am »
I know that they had done that with Cassete tapes back in the '90s when the RIAA got bent out of shape about people recording what it getting played on the radio.

You can still do that. ReplayMusic + a pretty wacked out stereo-microphone port hookup (be sure to use a piece of crap you got at a garage sale for $2, the electricty from the mic port kills) and you're good.
Or, you could just have your radio reciever running through your cassete player, and then press the "record" button.