The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux

[CrAz3D]

[Joe]

Windows has no sense of humor, a Mac slacks off and never gets anything done, and Linux is high-tech but ugly?

That's pretty good, actually.

[trust]

No it's saying Linux is for the people who to go Star Wars conventions dressed up. And they're ugly.

[Warrior]

I laugh at the Mac commercials. It makes the Mac guy look like a jackass and the Windows guy look productive.

[Sidoh]

lol, I must admit that the Vista one was pretty clever, albeit somewhat invalid.  My dad laughed his ass off when he saw it after I told him that he'd probably have to upgrade a bunch of his hardware in order to run vista without much pain involved.

[ZeroX]

The Mac guys is an asshole. If these comericals are to get people to lean towards a mac when Choosing there OS then I still go back to Windows. I want to kick that guy in the nuts.

"Iam cool and laid back, ROFL look at my buddie windows he comes in a 3 boxes, I come in one."

Fuck Steve Jobs and his marketing team.

[Joe]

guys is

I should have stopped reading at that.

[Sidoh]

The Mac guys is an asshole. If these comericals are to get people to lean towards a mac when Choosing there OS then I still go back to Windows. I want to kick that guy in the nuts.

"Iam cool and laid back, ROFL look at my buddie windows he comes in a 3 boxes, I come in one."

Fuck Steve Jobs and his marketing team.

Personally, I really liked the most recent Vista commercial with the security guard asking him "You are coming to a sad realization.  Allow or deny?"

That said, the commercials obviously target people who don't know much about either operating system.  I don't think it's possible to make a commercial that's going to convert even the least bias windows zealot (yes, I realize that's an oxymoron of sorts).

[Joe]

The thing that pisses me off is that these commercials are sort of taking advantage of people who simply don't have a clue of what's going on. Sure, it's their fault, but I wouldn't want it happening to me, and it's definately not moral to do so

[ZeroX]

guys is

I should have stopped reading at that.

My grammer is 1337.

The thing that pisses me off is that these commercials are sort of taking advantage of people who simply don't have a clue of what's going on. Sure, it's their fault, but I wouldn't want it happening to me, and it's definately not moral to do so

The common person dosent know a damn thing about a comptuer let alone what an OS is. Assuming that you are an average person in today society you probally have only used Windows and have had some type of break out in your system so you would think "LOL, No virus on Mac? Easy to set up? The guy in teh commerical is laid back and whitty? Damn Mac is the choice for me"

So I totally agree with you on your statement. But you cant really think its taking advantage of somebody on their own stupidty and lack of Knowledge.

[Joe]

My grammer is 1337.

What's grammer? Grammar, you mean?

[Sidoh]

The thing that pisses me off is that these commercials are sort of taking advantage of people who simply don't have a clue of what's going on. Sure, it's their fault, but I wouldn't want it happening to me, and it's definately not moral to do so

Isn't that the only audience that commercials really have a chance of influencing?

The common person dosent know a damn thing about a comptuer let alone what an OS is. Assuming that you are an average person in today society you probally have only used Windows and have had some type of break out in your system so you would think "LOL, No virus on Mac? Easy to set up? The guy in teh commerical is laid back and whitty? Damn Mac is the choice for me"

So I totally agree with you on your statement. But you cant really think its taking advantage of somebody on their own stupidty and lack of Knowledge.

I'd wager most people simply don't care enough to make the switch.

What's grammer? Grammar, you mean?

Yeah, Joe, you're really one to be correcting spelling and grammar mistakes...

[Quik]

The thing that pisses me off is that these commercials are sort of taking advantage of people who simply don't have a clue of what's going on. Sure, it's their fault, but I wouldn't want it happening to me, and it's definately not moral to do so

As opposed to all other commercials, that don't do this.

[Joe]

The detergent I use isn't a matter of a thousand dollars, though.

[Sidoh]

The detergent I use isn't a matter of a thousand dollars, though.

So everything over an arbitrary threshold shouldn't be allowed to advertise?

[Warrior]

The UAC one is inaccurate on so many levels. But it was clever and I laughed.

Oh well, they'll still have 5% marketshare and they'll still claim they're "winning" something.

[disco]

[CrAz3D]

good point...

[Chavo]

thats the whole point of the ad, they aren't trying to sell the product to businesses... they want to entice home and casual users

[Sidoh]

I'd have to interview them.

[Newby]

The thing that pisses me off is that these commercials are sort of taking advantage of people who simply don't have a clue of what's going on. Sure, it's their fault, but I wouldn't want it happening to me, and it's definately not moral to do so

As opposed to all other commercials, that don't do this.

People don't expose flaws in advertising? WHY THE FUCK NOT?!?!?!?

[Joe]

I'm not quite sure who you're promoting with that. It sort of pains me to say this, but I'd hire the teenager though. Men who show up in business suits make shitty lifeguards.

[iago]

I'd have to interview them.

Agreed. Though typically, in the computer industry younger people are generally better. The old guy looks to stuffy/old fashioned, which is generally a bad thing. Younger, more energetic, and dynamic people are the way to go.

Also, if the old guy needs an operation every time he upgrades, he'd cost the healthplan a lot, too.

[Super_X]

I'd have to interview them.

Agreed. Though typically, in the computer industry younger people are generally better. The old guy looks to stuffy/old fashioned, which is generally a bad thing. Younger, more energetic, and dynamic people are the way to go.

Also, if the old guy needs an operation every time he upgrades, he'd cost the healthplan a lot, too.

Right, so the best way to solve that is kill them and get a new employee each time.

[iago]

Right, so the best way to solve that is kill them and get a new employee each time.

Well, that depends what's cheaper: training a new employee or paying for an operation for the old one.

If you're starting with nobody, you obviously need to train, but once you already have an employee, you have to balance training with operation.

[Super_X]

Right, so the best way to solve that is kill them and get a new employee each time.

Well, that depends what's cheaper: training a new employee or paying for an operation for the old one.

If you're starting with nobody, you obviously need to train, but once you already have an employee, you have to balance training with operation.

Alright, now that we have that down, lets go back to the fiscal area of computers. Is it more expencive to have an upgrade every couple of years, or a new computer every four, or five years? (I am not actually sure which would cost more, I have a feeling it'd be more expencive to be a new computer, but that's my uneducated guess.)

[Sidoh]

That obviously depends on a lot of things.  What kind of upgrades would you plan on adding?  How much does a desirable (in your opinion) new computer cost?

[Super_X]

That obviously depends on a lot of things.  What kind of upgrades would you plan on adding?  How much does a desirable (in your opinion) new computer cost?

I know it's quite dependant, but I was thinking: "I would already have most of the stuff, I'd just need to buy a few new things like RAM, video card, and (according to that lame commercial) a new proccessor. Assuming that all fits on your motherboard, that's less than an equivilant new computer, yeah?"
So, that's just what I was basing my oppinion on.

[iago]

I don't know about you guys, but I was talking about a person!

Of course, if you want to run Vista, all you really need, according to Dell, is 512mb:


The only problem is, all you can do is boot your computer, maybe change the wallpaper, and wait for it to catch on fire. Since when was " Booting the Operating System, without running applications or games" a big feature? 

(screenshot is real, I took it: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/solutions/en/winvista?c=us&l=en&s=gen&redirect=1)