Poll

How many spaces do you put after a period?

0
0 (0%)
1
11 (45.8%)
2
11 (45.8%)
Varies
2 (8.3%)

Total Members Voted: 22

Author Topic: Spaces after a period  (Read 9902 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline iago

  • Leader
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17914
  • Fnord.
    • View Profile
    • SkullSecurity
Spaces after a period
« on: February 10, 2007, 09:26:55 pm »
I'm somewhat curious. I've always put 2-spaces after a period, but in my new job the editor tells us to do 1-space, and gets mad if you don't.

In the past month, I've successfully altered my 2-space habit, so I almost always use one space now. But it seems weird, since I always learned 2.

Offline Newby

  • x86
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10877
  • Thrash!
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2007, 09:28:50 pm »
I learned early in life it was two. I still use one. :)
- Newby
http://www.x86labs.org

Quote
[17:32:45] * xar sets mode: -oooooooooo algorithm ban chris cipher newby stdio TehUser tnarongi|away vursed warz
[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
[17:32:58] <xar> new rule
[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

Offline dark_drake

  • Mufasa was 10x the lion Simba was.
  • x86
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2440
  • Dun dun dun
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2007, 09:44:03 pm »
I usually go with one.  If the person I'm typing for asks for two, I'll type one until the very end and then just use find and replace.
errr... something like that...

Offline Ergot

  • 吴立峰 ^_^ !
  • x86
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3724
  • I steal bandwidth. p_o
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2007, 09:45:23 pm »
I use to do one, but now I do two since my 10th grade English teacher told me to. I still use one online though.
Who gives a damn? I fuck sheep all the time.
And yes, male both ends.  There are a couple lesbians that need a two-ended dildo...My router just refuses to wear a strap-on.
(05:55:03) JoE ThE oDD: omfg good job i got a boner thinkin bout them chinese bitches
(17:54:15) Sidoh: I love cosmetology

Offline Ender

  • x86
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2390
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2007, 09:52:36 pm »
The two-spacing is obsolete. Single spacing is the future. They did it back when there were no word processors so I'm afraid to say iago that you're 36 years behind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_stop#Spacing_after_full_stop

Oh, and you also have HTML to thank for that =P It's cool to think about how the MLA, APA, etc. shapes their standards around computers and technology, as was the case for HTML.

"With the advent of standardized HTML for rendering webpages, the broader distinction between full stop spacing and internal spacing in a sentence has become largely moot on the World Wide Web. Standardized HTML treats additional whitespace after the first space as immaterial (siding unquestioningly with the one-spacers), and ignores it when rendering the page. A common workaround for this is the use of &nbsp; (Non-breaking space) to represent extra spaces, and is done automatically by some WYSIWYG editors."



Offline Eric

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 304
  • I'm new here!
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2007, 09:54:25 pm »
I've always been a fan of the two-space.  It looks much cleaner, in my opinion.

Offline Ender

  • x86
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2390
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2007, 09:56:09 pm »
I use to do one, but now I do two since my 10th grade English teacher told me to. I still use one online though.

Who do you trust, your teacher or HTML?

Offline iago

  • Leader
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17914
  • Fnord.
    • View Profile
    • SkullSecurity
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2007, 09:58:42 pm »
I usually go with one.  If the person I'm typing for asks for two, I'll type one until the very end and then just use find and replace.
Haha, that's the opposite of what I did at first at my job, I'd do it with 2 then find/replace with 1. But now I've broken the habit of using 2, so I can do either equally well. Go me! :)

Offline Sidoh

  • x86
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17634
  • MHNATY ~~~~~
    • View Profile
    • sidoh
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2007, 10:04:58 pm »
Here's the MLA's response to this subject, iago.  They seem to be pretty impartial.

Offline Ergot

  • 吴立峰 ^_^ !
  • x86
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3724
  • I steal bandwidth. p_o
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2007, 10:10:18 pm »
I use to do one, but now I do two since my 10th grade English teacher told me to. I still use one online though.

Who do you trust, your teacher or HTML?
The teacher since he or she is the one that gives me the grade.
Who gives a damn? I fuck sheep all the time.
And yes, male both ends.  There are a couple lesbians that need a two-ended dildo...My router just refuses to wear a strap-on.
(05:55:03) JoE ThE oDD: omfg good job i got a boner thinkin bout them chinese bitches
(17:54:15) Sidoh: I love cosmetology

trust

  • Guest
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2007, 10:24:25 pm »
I've always used one, I don't see the purpose in using two and it's inconvenient to push the spacebar twice with no productivity or practicality in return.

Offline iago

  • Leader
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17914
  • Fnord.
    • View Profile
    • SkullSecurity
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2007, 11:26:57 pm »
Here's the MLA's response to this subject, iago.  They seem to be pretty impartial.
Strictly speaking, I wasn't asking which one's right. It seems that using either are conventions, which is supported by the MLA. So it really comes down to personal preference, unless you're writing professionally (or academically), then you just do what you're told to :).

I think what we all want to know is, how many spaces are you supposed to put after an emoticon? :)

Offline Ergot

  • 吴立峰 ^_^ !
  • x86
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3724
  • I steal bandwidth. p_o
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2007, 11:28:43 pm »
I think what we all want to know is, how many spaces are you supposed to put after an emoticon? :)
If the emoticon is taking the place of a full-stop then I would use two.
Who gives a damn? I fuck sheep all the time.
And yes, male both ends.  There are a couple lesbians that need a two-ended dildo...My router just refuses to wear a strap-on.
(05:55:03) JoE ThE oDD: omfg good job i got a boner thinkin bout them chinese bitches
(17:54:15) Sidoh: I love cosmetology

Offline Hitmen

  • B&
  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1913
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2007, 11:57:43 pm »
Uhh, this is not a subject I have ever heard anyone bring up in my life. Your editor should be flogged until he finds more important things to care about.
Quote
(22:15:39) Newby: it hurts to swallow

Offline Joe

  • B&
  • x86
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10319
  • In Soviet Russia, text read you!
    • View Profile
    • Github
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2007, 12:38:56 am »
Like finding a way to get out of the flogging?

One. There can be only one.
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


Offline MyndFyre

  • Boticulator Extraordinaire
  • x86
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4540
  • The wait is over.
    • View Profile
    • JinxBot :: the evolution in boticulation
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2007, 01:34:30 am »
I'm somewhat curious. I've always put 2-spaces after a period, but in my new job the editor tells us to do 1-space, and gets mad if you don't.

In the past month, I've successfully altered my 2-space habit, so I almost always use one space now. But it seems weird, since I always learned 2.

In every English class I've taken, it's 2 spaces at the end of a sentence, one space when you're using an abbreviation (such as Mr.), unless it's immediately followed by other punctuation, such as comma or parenthesis.
I have a programming folder, and I have nothing of value there

Running with Code has a new home!

Our species really annoys me.

Offline CrAz3D

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10184
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2007, 03:39:25 am »
I'm somewhat curious. I've always put 2-spaces after a period, but in my new job the editor tells us to do 1-space, and gets mad if you don't.

In the past month, I've successfully altered my 2-space habit, so I almost always use one space now. But it seems weird, since I always learned 2.

In every English class I've taken, it's 2 spaces at the end of a sentence, one space when you're using an abbreviation (such as Mr.), unless it's immediately followed by other punctuation, such as comma or parenthesis.
same here.

however, it sees that chicago styles usesd only one spcaes for published documetns.
maybe i guess i should change then so that i work in there

Offline Super_X

  • I suck.
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1340
  • I suck!
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2007, 05:47:03 am »
The way that I was tought was it was two spaces on typewriters and one space on the computer. Most of the word processors make it more clear that it's a period and the end of a sentance, I've noticed.

Offline iago

  • Leader
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17914
  • Fnord.
    • View Profile
    • SkullSecurity
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2007, 11:34:12 am »
Uhh, this is not a subject I have ever heard anyone bring up in my life. Your editor should be flogged until he finds more important things to care about.
Haha, while you have a valid point, when documents are authored by more than one person, a consistent style has to be used, otherwise it'll look funny.

It's like, when you're programming something on a team, you should have a consistent programming style (in terms of spacing and commenting), which helps in the end. Makes it easier to edit others' code and such.

Offline Ender

  • x86
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2390
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2007, 04:06:24 pm »
Amalgamating writing and programming styles can be artful. I'd rather see code with different programming styles :P

Offline Sidoh

  • x86
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17634
  • MHNATY ~~~~~
    • View Profile
    • sidoh
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2007, 04:17:08 pm »
Amalgamating writing and programming styles can be artful. I'd rather see code with different programming styles :P

It may be refreshing initially, but I doubt you'd keep that opinion after a few weeks on a programming job.

Offline kalaka

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 29
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2007, 09:22:04 pm »
Personally I use just one, never seen anyone use two (or just never noticed I guess).

Offline Joe

  • B&
  • x86
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10319
  • In Soviet Russia, text read you!
    • View Profile
    • Github
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2007, 10:18:29 pm »
Ender will enjoy reading the new code merged into JavaOp. iago's style and mine are mostly the same (I pretty much learned from him), but somewhat different.
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


Offline Screenor

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1611
  • My own little world.
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2007, 11:33:52 pm »
I never had anyone argue with how many spaces I put after a period (I put one). No one ever specified how many I should have either...

Offline Rule

  • x86
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1588
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2007, 11:48:16 pm »
Interesting!  And quite ironic of Ender to claim that the double space is being eliminated by the "computer age."  I have never been told anything about whether we should have a single space or a double space at the end of a sentence.  I guess it's not terribly noticeable in handwriting, so I never really thought about it.   
It would be unnatural just to "guess" that there would be two spaces, so without thinking about it at all, when I first started word-processing (I was about 14... so computers really weren't part of my punctuation education :P) I assumed there was one space at the end of sentences, but I noticed that I was always corrected!  And since I type quickly, I got in an habit of quickly tapping the space bar twice at the end of any sentence closing punctuation.  So MS Word drilled this convention into my writing, and I have followed it since.  And I don't think I've thought about it since I was about 14, when I was forced to change! :O

Offline Ender

  • x86
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2390
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2007, 09:21:47 pm »
Interesting! And quite ironic of Ender to claim that the double space is being eliminated by the "computer age." I have never been told anything about whether we should have a single space or a double space at the end of a sentence. I guess it's not terribly noticeable in handwriting, so I never really thought about it. 
It would be unnatural just to "guess" that there would be two spaces, so without thinking about it at all, when I first started word-processing (I was about 14... so computers really weren't part of my punctuation education :P) I assumed there was one space at the end of sentences, but I noticed that I was always corrected! And since I type quickly, I got in an habit of quickly tapping the space bar twice at the end of any sentence closing punctuation. So MS Word drilled this convention into my writing, and I have followed it since. And I don't think I've thought about it since I was about 14, when I was forced to change! :O

;D

Offline d&q

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1427
  • I'm here.
    • View Profile
    • Site
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2007, 10:47:31 pm »
Rule, would it be too much of an intrusion to ask for your age?
The writ of the founders must endure.

Offline leet_muffin

  • x86
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2166
  • Socialism '08!
    • View Profile
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2007, 12:11:36 am »
Uh, I've been assaulted from two different teachers for doing it two different ways, I don't know what to believe.
 
The douchebag method:
fuck allfo you i dont give a fuck ill fight everyone of you fuck that sbhit fuck you

Offline Skywing

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 139
    • View Profile
    • Nynaeve
Re: Spaces after a period
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2007, 12:45:31 am »
Two spaces.